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Concerned about resource usage of AI? Stop eating beef NOW. (crazypeople.online)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by hamid@crazypeople.online to c/vegan@lemmy.ml

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To feed your food preferences:

AI: ~560–800 Billion Liters Annual usage

Beef: ~4,387 Trillion Liters (for feed alone)

AI: Minimal land use

Beef: 44% of global habitable land

AI: ~20,400 tons CO2 (per large model)

Beef: ~14.5% of all global emissions

AI: Electronic waste, local heat islands

Beef: Methane, manure runoff, "dead zones"

A single quarter-pound beef burger requires between 40 and 70 gallons of surface/groundwater

A heavy AI user (50 queries/day for a year) consumes roughly 14 to 48 gallons of water annually

Beef driven industrial agriculture is the #1 driver of global deforestation. In the Amazon, cattle ranching is responsible for at least 75% of forest loss. This is causing ecological collapse.

All this to torture cows. Fucking stop it. Stop it NOW.

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[–] Salah@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is there research of the psychological effects of butchering animals?

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There is indeed

There is evidence that slaughterhouse employment is associated with lower levels of psychological well-being. SHWs [slaughterhouse workers] have described suffering from trauma, intense shock, paranoia, anxiety, guilt and shame (Victor & Barnard, 2016), and stress (Kristensen, 1991). There was evidence of higher rates of depression (Emhan et al., 2012; Horton & Lipscomb, 2011; Hutz et al., 2013; Lander et al., 2016; Lipscomb et al., 2007), anxiety (Emhan et al., 2012; Hutz et al., 2013; Leibler et al., 2017), psychosis (Emhan et al., 2012), and feelings of lower self-worth at work (Baran et al., 2016). Of particular note was that the symptomatology appeared to vary by job role. Employees working directly with the animals (e.g., on the kill floor or handling the carcasses) were those who showed the highest prevalence rates of aggression, anxiety, and depression (Hutz et al., 2013; Richards et al., 2013).

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/15248380211030243

Or for more qualitative research with quotes from slaughterhouse workers on effects

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4841092/

[–] Salah@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

Thank you, that’s super fascinating. The way that people who work in the industry talk about animals is very unsettling, they have really convinced themselves that animals can’t feel the pain they inflict on them. So I had assumed that they had completely reduced animals to objects in their mind. Knowing that ptsd is common is somewhat relieving because it means that fully objectifying living beings cannot happen without consequences.