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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bad is bad. Less bad is less bad.

Having family members concerned about the level of uncertainty involved in their immigration proceedings was bad, as no one, but especially not people who've been in the country and established lives, should be treated as illegal for their region of residence. Having family members fucking deported for it because of changes in Federal immigration enforcement policy is fucking worse.

Inflicting more suffering on the oppressed so you can feel 'pure' isn't solidarity, it's solipsism.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Miss me with your uneducated, centrist bullshit.

We get it, you weren't affected personally, so you don't give a shit about the lives of those that were already being affected. We get it. You have no solidarity.

And FYI, we aren't the ones inflicting the suffering so nice try shifting that blame.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Miss me with your uneducated, centrist bullshit.

We get it, you weren’t affected personally, so you don’t give a shit about the lives of those that were already being affected. We get it. You have no solidarity.

Typical of the low level of reading comprehension you've displayed, in my experience.

And FYI, we aren’t the ones inflicting the suffering so nice try shifting that blame.

"We didn't INFLICT the suffering, we just were useful idiots for the Nazis that did! You can't blame us for THAT!"

Yeah, that tracks with your myopic privileged suburbia style takes.

Sorry that those of us dealing with oppression have to live in the real fucking world, I know it's so much more comfy to engage in online circlejerks.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a very weird way of saying we are the only ones actually trying to organize against the very systems and institutions that aren't enabling and empowering the fascists.

Continuing bending over for the lesser evil while the rest of us actually try to fight the evil.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s a very weird way of saying we are the only ones actually trying to organize against the very systems and institutions that aren’t enabling and empowering the fascists.

Okay, what form of organizing against systems and institutions requires you to play fucking 1984 doublethink games with regards to improvement of deterioration of conditions?

Continuing bending over for the lesser evil while the rest of us actually try to fight the evil.

"Bending over for the lesser evil is when you acknowledge that the lesser evil is lesser"

I'm sorry reality, even as acknowledged by the lens of your own analysis here, is so offensive to you?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Continuing with your bad faith bullshit I see. Can't really expect anything else from a neolib who can't tell the difference between "1984 doublethink" and understanding that lesser evil is still fucking evil and thus not an acceptable compromise and will never affect progress towards the goal of liberating the working class from oppression by continuing to abdicate your political will in support of it.

Plenty of people have explained anarchist perspective and praxis to you across this site and it's clear you just can't comprehend it. I'm not gonna take on that challenge when others, who're far better at explaining things than I, couldn't even do it.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Continuing with your bad faith bullshit I see. Can’t really expect anything else from a neolib who can’t tell the difference between “1984 doublethink” and understanding that lesser evil is still fucking evil and thus not an acceptable compromise

Luckily, it would seem you think that the greater evil is an acceptable compromise. How fantastic. I'm sure the oppressed thank you all the time for your far-sighted, privileged stand in favor of your own mental masturbation over their wellbeing.

and will never affect progress towards the goal of liberating the working class from oppression by continuing to abdicate your political will in support of it.

"People aren't wrong to miss less-horrific times."

"How DARE you abdicate your political will in support of the lesser evil!"

...

Plenty of people have explained anarchist perspective to you across this site and it’s clear you just can’t comprehend it. I’m not gonna take on that challenge when others, who’re far better at explaining things than I, couldn’t even do it.

I understand anarchist perspectives just fine, in general. But this isn't even a question like "Is harm reduction mandatory?" wherein I might actually get into a brawl with some anarchists over it; this is literally just "Are people wrong for missing less oppressive times?"

You've both asserted that the times were not less oppressive, and called it a lesser evil. I'm sorry that that isn't unsubtle enough for you to trigger your own sense of cognitive dissonance, but I understand you have a lot of practice ignoring that particular annoyance in your head.