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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s why the overton window keeps shifting, because the level of evil you accept keeps looking better in comparison to worse.

... would you like to outline the past ~70 years of the Overton window shifting to allow more evil instead of less? Or were we voting for saints back in the 50s?

[–] slowcakes@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why does it have to be 70 years? Can we do 10 20 30? Then I don't believe the overtone window is that obvious 30-40 years ago you were considered bad if you bought a right wing newspaper, people would stop talking to you. (Well at least where I am from)

Coincidentally that is the period where workers had the most rights, which has slowly become worse with time in every western country.

At that time they thought right wing people where against them having rights and quiet evil, they had been thought by their parents, who worked hard for those rights. Our generation has not learned the importance and given more room for the right wing to control our media, which then controls the narrative. Why is there so many articles about trump or Elon musk, I mean we have two idiots who cares, do we have to know that trump misspelled coffee?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why does it have to be 70 years? Can we do 10 20 30? Then I don’t believe the overtone window is that obvious 30-40 years ago you were considered bad if you bought a right wing newspaper, people would stop talking to you. (Well at least where I am from)

Yeah, sure, let's do 10, 20, 30.

30 years ago Black folk were being called 'superpredators' and blamed for a 'crime wave', the push to dismantle the meager welfare state in the USA was wildly popular, immigration law was reformed to militarize the border and deportation, being gay was illegal in about half of US states... do I need to go on?

[–] slowcakes@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are making an argument against your own point of lesser evils, we are debating if the overtone window has shifted. Which is obvious that it has. As I stated before media is owned by the wealthy even state owned media is controlled by the wealthy, they set the narrative, why do you think that they write and talk about super predators, so that becomes the agenda. And not that coperate america is fucking over the working class, and the politicians aren't doing jack shit about it.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

You are making an argument against your own point of lesser evils,

What.

You need to revisit politics in the 90s. Shit was mainstream that would make your milk curdle in the fridge.

As I stated before media is owned by the wealthy even state owned media is controlled by the wealthy, they set the narrative,

... who do you think controlled the media in the West before 1990?

why do you think that they write and talk about super predators, so that becomes the agenda.

The absurd 'superpredator' line died with the lingering effects of the 1980s crime wave. I don't know where you're hearing it today.

And not that coperate america is fucking over the working class, and the politicians aren’t doing jack shit about it.

Sure, but that's not fucking new.