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Inside the Systemd Age Verification Debate: Developer Responds to Criticism (itsfoss.com)
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I draw the line at when a third party internet-connected service is doing validation of ID. Let’s be honest though, I strongly believe such a thing isn’t possible on a FOSS operating system environment unless they could control what was bootable on the device at a firmware level, enforce signatures to ensure that you couldn’t boot something unrestricted, remove the ability to be root, and block LD_PRELOAD so signals couldn’t be faked. There’s probably more ways to circumvent that.

What I’m trying to say is real ID verification on Linux would be awfully hard to implement, and I guarantee you, nobody would put up with it. They’d fork to a version that doesn’t have it immediately as a protest. Right now, we’re considering implementing something akin to the date pickers that were ubiquitous when signing up for internet services in the early 2000s where it’s just an honor system.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't call systemd just an init system to begin with, though that was the initial project goal.

Scope creep. You're describing scope creep.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Which goes against the do one thing and do it well philosophy that helps to keep things stable and secure.

[–] anyhow2503@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago

No, though parts of systemd have a scope creep issue, that's not what I'm describing. I'm talking about Poettering deciding to create a service layer for Linux after stealing some ideas from MacOS. Reducing that to "scope creep" is misleading at best and feeds into the "systemd is a monolithic application" concern trolling at worst.