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What Is The Deal With Trotskyism And Maoism? (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/11136332

Edit: I'm from the Global South, I should've clarified that on the post. The lesson has been learned.

Many leftist movements, legit or not, call themselves either Trotskyist or Maoist and keep dissing Stalin for his “socialism in one state” policy and “ruining” Comintern and Deng Xiaoping for his “liberal” policies.

I want to know what they are trying to do by distancing themselves from the USSR and PRC while fetishizing Cuba and Vietnam—you’ll only hear them talking about the Vietnam War, btw—and following either the guy who lost the power struggle or a literal Marxist-Leninist who supported one of the refused countries and founding the other.

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[–] unaware@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a lot to criticize Hoxha for, but lumping him in with Gonzalo and Trotsky to this extent seems kind of crass. Also, is the point of this diagram that Hoxha and Gonzalo both lead to Trotsky? Because I don't think that's really true . . .

[–] unaware@hexbear.net 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree, I think the meme isn't entirely accurate, I just posted it because I find it funny. However, I do think that the meme is correct in that both "hoxhaists" and "maoists" are splinter movements that hinder the unity of ML movements in a way which is, in the final analysis, similar to trotskyist parties. However, I wouldn't lump Hoxha with "hoxhaists" (and in fact, western "maoists" probably also should be distinguished from Gonzalo)

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

I think Spidermen pointing each other template would be better.

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I definitely forgot adding Hoxhaists to the question. They are not that big compared to the other two though; I only met one guy who claimed he was a Hoxhaist.

[–] unaware@hexbear.net 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

tbf I don't think I've ever met a hoxhaist irl

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

sounds like you need to bunker down

[–] asdasd201@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 17 hours ago

What's up with the Hoxha-bunker jokes?