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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ironic claim on your part. Check out the history of the LOANS given to rebuild Europe. That's the "scoop up" to put it simply.

Governments were then beholden to the loan givers to rebuild; those loans weren't charity. They were very ADVANTAGEOUS to the USA. American companies and the banks that own them bought everything for the bottom dollar and used that to strong-arm the rest of planet earth into compliance in many ways. The effects can still be seen and felt today. Not even going into the UN, NATO, the IMF, the World Bank, and so on.

It's multilayered and incontrovertible. Check it out, my angry befuddled friend

OR provide me with "true information". Good luck

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What!? Banks gave out loans so people could rebuild? Even after the lend lease program?

Countries must have been devastated and then had to swear fealty to America as a result.

Checks note

Number of countries that have to do what the U.S. tells them: zero.

Let me do the most basic of research...

From Wikipedia:

"The U.S. rebuilt Europe after WWII primarily through the

Marshall Plan (European Recovery Program, 1948–1951), providing over $13 billion (approx. $150+ billion in 2017 dollars) in aid to 16 Western European nations. The assistance was mostly grants (~90%), not loans, designed to rebuild infrastructure, boost industrial production, and curb communist influence."

I guess your fantasy is just that, a fantasy.

The only pull the U.S. has is the that the plutocrats in their own countries stand to make money too.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What!? Banks gave out loans so people could rebuild? Even after the lend lease program

Indeed! The rates were untenable, so they also gave MORE loans to pay off the interest of the loans, and so on, making incredible wealth off of interest alone. Like I said, it wasn't done for charity.

Much was not repaid, of course; that was paid for by the taxpayer, those loses were not paid for by the banks (The US was the guarantor).

There's no fantasy, I agree that that's really what they did. Well, plus the USA seized a lot of land. And built many military bases all over the world. And much, much more.

Number of countries that have to do what the U.S. tells them: zero.

Is this some kind of joke? Seriously?

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What are you basing your nonsense off of?

I literally did 1 min of googling to find info that proves you are talking out of your ass and posted it.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago

I just did 2 minutes of Googling and found out that your information was provided by the Council of Foreign Relations and is suspect.

Are you asserting that loans have not been given to pay other loans?+

Or that tax payers paid substantial amounts?

Or that the USA has seized land and has military bases all over the world?