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Explanations I've seen:

  • to drive up oil / gas prices (the problem is that the prices are too high, which accelerates the global green energy revolution and the end of the fossil fuel industry while destabilizing western "society"; successfully seizing Iran's oil would have presumably lowered prices too);

  • Trump's ego, bolstered by Maduro's kidnapping and the seemingly successful counter-revolution in Venezuela; the imperial ruling class thought they were invincible because they haven't suffered a really palpable defeat since Vietnam (I guess Afghanistan / Yemen doesn't count...);

  • to protect the Zionist entity and the Gulf Monarchies and also to shore up American influence in the region;

  • to slow China's rise (Iran supplies lots of China's fossil fuels);

  • a distraction from the Epstein files;

  • lots of powerful ghouls have been itching to do this since 1979;

  • to stop Iran's nonexistent nuclear weapons program;

  • to game the stock market.

Did I miss anything? What are the most plausible / implausible explanations? Are they all valid? I'm not sure, I'm asking because I want comments / critiques. Also, are we headed to a permanent nationwide blackout in the USA (as predicted by The Simpsons) and the Mad Max-ification of all but the top 10% or will things "go back to normal"? Or will this just become another Ukraine War?

Bonus Q: how are the libs and chuds you know reacting to the war? My spouse thinks that Iran is currently winning but the USA will eventually prevail ๐Ÿฅด

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[โ€“] curmudgeonthefrog@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ben Norton brings up in one of his recent videos that one of the big reasons for the war is America's absolute necessity for the dollar to be the global reserve currency, and in this case the petrodollar. Our trade deficit is so much higher than most countries that we would normally have mass inflation if it weren't for the fact that the world is required to trade in dollars. Iran and Russia have been trading oil in Yuan, currently 1/5th of all global oil is traded without US dollars. That figure is rising every year. If it reaches a point where the majority of oil isn't traded with dollars. America loses their dollar hegemony. Brings the whole American banking system crashing down (which is the apocalypse for American ruling class). So long story short they need to destroy Iran, control the strait of Hormuz and control all of the oil trading out of the middle east. Otherwise letting things just continue to function as they are will cause America to collapse.

[โ€“] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is a good explanation and I think there are probably some ghouls at the top who think this and want this for that reason. However, I don't think we should overestimate the people in power in their calculations. Usually it's much simpler and they'll do this kind of shit just because they huff their own farts and believe their own propaganda. "Iran Bad" is as good enough reason as any for these people as "we'll just take their oil." While it's important to analyze this stuff like that and not to infantilize our ops sometimes it just do be like that.

For sure, the dumbasses in our hollowed out state department aren't as machiavellian as they once were. They are still financed and backed by people that look at it through an economic lens. Trump and hegseth can believe whatever they want but the American capitalists backing them are going to push for war to maintain their power.