this post was submitted on 21 Mar 2026
21 points (83.9% liked)

Data is Beautiful

7904 readers
25 users here now

A place to share and discuss visual representations of data: Graphs, charts, maps, etc.

DataIsBeautiful is for visualizations that effectively convey information. Aesthetics are an important part of information visualization, but pretty pictures are not the sole aim of this subreddit.

A place to share and discuss visual representations of data: Graphs, charts, maps, etc.

  A post must be (or contain) a qualifying data visualization.

  Directly link to the original source article of the visualization
    Original source article doesn't mean the original source image. Link to the full page of the source article as a link-type submission.
    If you made the visualization yourself, tag it as [OC]

  [OC] posts must state the data source(s) and tool(s) used in the first top-level comment on their submission.

  DO NOT claim "[OC]" for diagrams that are not yours.

  All diagrams must have at least one computer generated element.

  No reposts of popular posts within 1 month.

  Post titles must describe the data plainly without using sensationalized headlines. Clickbait posts will be removed.

  Posts involving American Politics, or contentious topics in American media, are permissible only on Thursdays (ET).

  Posts involving Personal Data are permissible only on Mondays (ET).

Please read through our FAQ if you are new to posting on DataIsBeautiful. Commenting Rules

Don't be intentionally rude, ever.

Comments should be constructive and related to the visual presented. Special attention is given to root-level comments.

Short comments and low effort replies are automatically removed.

Hate Speech and dogwhistling are not tolerated and will result in an immediate ban.

Personal attacks and rabble-rousing will be removed.

Moderators reserve discretion when issuing bans for inappropriate comments. Bans are also subject to you forfeiting all of your comments in this community.

Originally r/DataisBeautiful

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did they use data from 20 years ago?

No way this is even close to being accurate.

Unless they changed the definition of middle class to, "make enough money to afford rent and nothing else."

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeah this is a joke.

I just looked at the Zillow's current average rent for 2 bedroom dwellings in a few states.

Yeah, most of these incomes, if they are household incomes, are basically on the threshold of the 'Makes 3x more than the rent' number, either slightly above it or slightly below it.

So 'middle class' apparently means 2 bedroom apartment/townhome/home, that you are renting.

In the 90s, middle class was more like... you have a 3 or 4 bedroom house, that you have a mortgage on, with a front and back yard, 2 - 3 kids, 2 - 3 cars, maybe also a small boat or camper or jetski or something, and probably a decent vacation once a year.

Pew here has just completely arbitrarily defined 2/3 the median income (presumably household) as the lower bound of middle class.

Ok then so uh...

https://dqydj.com/household-income-percentiles/

So the median household income is about $83k in 2025.

So, 2/3 of that is ~55k, 4/3 is ~111k.

Thats what Pew says the middle class is, just entirely based on taking the median and making a belt around it, not factoring in actual costs of anything at all.

This is basically completely useless, to define 'middle class' this way. Totally arbitrary, totally unrelated to actual lifestyle and things you have and can do.

[–] Innerworld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Minimum to qualify. The data from SmartAsset is labeled as "lower bound for middle class income".

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Lower bound, middle, upward bound, I don't give a shit what fucking name they gave it. It's still worthless bullshit.

There is NO FUCKING WAY that a household making that income would have any lifestyle traditionally associated with "middle class".

I don't know if you're smoking pot or a Republican apologist trying to make the economy sound better than it is, but using their qualifier as somehow defending the obvious nonsense this dataset is, is absurd.