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You should consider putting your kid in Scouts (lemmy.today)

submitted 21 hours ago by 1dalm@lemmy.today to c/parenting@lemmy.world

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I'm constantly amazed that scouts isn't more popular with families. I'm a huge supporter of the whole worldwide program (particularly Scouting America and the Girl Scouts in the US).

Yes, let's all acknowledge that there were past abuses that the Boy Scouts ignored and covered up. But, primarily due to the lawsuits associated with those abuses, Scouting America has instituted a lot of really strong child protection policies that arguably make it the safest youth program anywhere.

It's a really great, comparatively cheap, program that offers amazing opportunities to kids and families.

If you find yourself having trouble making friends as an adult, I really recommend looking into it.

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[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Right after they capitulate to the fascists? No thanks. I'd want my children to learn some values worth respecting.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That was literally a nothing announcement. Virtually nothing actually changed about the program.

Literally one merit badge was removed and one elective merit badge was added. That's it. And all of the requirements in that one removed merit badge are repeated in multiple other merit badges, and those other merit badges didn't get charged at all.

I promise you. No one is checking kids birth certificates when they sign up and no child is being turned away from the program.

You are upset about literally nothing because an algorithm on the Internet told you this was something to be upset about.

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You aren't upset because you're biased. When have the fascists ever gotten what they wanted and then stopped? You'll make an excuse for each new capitulation. More likely you support the fascists from what I can see.

Edit: which is probably why you're lying. Even Fox News lists five specific changes ... War Secretary Pete Hegseth announces Scouting America agreed to reforms | Fox News https://share.google/TsWoNpLnNUFoGruWM

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So let's back up.

What specific actual virtue of the Scouting America do you have a problem with?

Here's the scout law to get you started:

A scout is: trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent.

Which one of these virtues do you want your kids to have? (And for gawd sakes, please read something about what "reverence" means before knee-jerking to that one."

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Scout Oath:

On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

Girl Scout Law:

I will do my best to be honest and fair, friendly and helpful, considerate and caring, courageous and strong, and responsible for what I say and do, and to respect myself and others, respect authority, use resources wisely, make the world a better place, and be a sister to every Girl Scout.

Idk but the Girl Scout Law is ..better.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What's... better?

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

morally straight.. mentally awake (lol "woke" idk why I find this hilarous), but specifically I like the girl scout part about being responsible for our own words and actions, and being a friend to others.

Girl scouts really emphisizes being of service to others in a non self serving way. Where as the boys (scouts, I know it's changed) are.. to do so to be patriotic? It's littered with nationalism and god. Those parts are in the girl scout promise (to serve god and my country) but it is less a focal point.

this is just an opinion though, im not trying to fight.

[–] 1dalm@lemmy.today 1 points 17 hours ago

Just to be clear, "morally straight" does not mean "sexually straight".

And yes, "mentally awake" literally means "woke". (Seriously. The scouts have been literally teaching "woke" for over 100 years. It's actually a very progressive organization.)