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[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

literally right after that:

You’re the one saying “puppeteer”. Why frame it as either 0% agency or 100%? Clearly there are degrees here. Ukraine is its own actor and the US and it allies are more interested in using their leverage to push against Russia rather than for Ukraine. They can both be true.

Again, look at Afghanistan in the eighties. It too was its own polity. At the same time, US support and arms clearly had a substantial role in how events transpired, with consequences felt far more heavily by the civilians it was supposedly in aid of.

you really like cherry picking, don't you?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You’re the one saying “puppeteer”.

"I didn't SAY puppeteer, I just said that I saw Ukraine as lacking agency beyond that which is decided for them by The West 🥺"

I never know if people like you actually believe what you're saying, or if you know it's bullshit but can't resist any angle to simp for genocide.

Why frame it as either 0% agency or 100%?

"Well, maybe the Ukrainians don't want to be genocided a little bit" isn't really much of a rebuttal to the idea of you being a bootlicker who regurgitates imperialist propaganda.

Again, look at Afghanistan in the eighties. It too was its own polity. At the same time, US support and arms clearly had a substantial role in how events transpired, with consequences felt far more heavily by the civilians it was supposedly in aid of.

"Afghanistan deserved genocide by Russian arms too" isn't much of a fucking rebuttal either, bootlicker.