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[–] slackj_87@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Great... can't wait for politicians to use this as a way to pass "common sense" legislation banning 3D printers.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 21 minutes ago

3D printers are even less useful here though. The rocket bit can be replaced with a cardboard tube and some balsa fins. The important parts are the active control and circuitry.

But I guess logic doesn't really enter into the conversation anyway.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Aren't they already doing that due to their hysteria over "ghost" guns?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well, that's the excuse at least. The law would have to effectively kill 3D printing. Is that the goal? Idk.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

It would severally hurt small time manufacturers, so yeah, probably.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I learned from Mario that ghosts can only harm you if you look away. They never had guns, but I guess the same applies for that.

[–] redditmademedoit@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought Luigi was the one with ghost gun

[–] mx_smith@lemmy.world 17 points 23 hours ago

Luigi was with me and he didn’t have a gun

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Trying to yes. I think it's model legislation, probably ALEC bs, if I recall CA tried to pass it and hasn't yet. Maybe a year back.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 11 points 23 hours ago

Washington State's bill would ban offline 3d printing and essentially force all printers to include DRM to stop undesirable printing.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 23 hours ago

The kind that can be better made with $20 and a trip to home depot?

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They can try, but the parts that make up a printer are used in tons of other applications. It isn't hard to build one from scratch.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

reprap goes brrrr

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how they intend to add DRM to a stepper motor.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

Don't give them any ideas! We don't need Dumb Restrictions on Motors.

And just like age verification it's useless because one can build a 3d printer out of an old VCR and a hot glue gun.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 23 hours ago

They already are over 3d guns, this will send them ballistic. They want every printer to keep a record of everything they've printed. Model legislation, I think CA tried and so far failed to pass it.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

They're already trying that in New York and California, unfortunately. "Any 3D printer capable of printing parts for firearms" was the verbage, from what I recall.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You don’t need to ban 3D printers. Restrictions and licensing requirements for making, using, owning rockets and guidance software are enough.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His guidance is just wifi cameras talking to it. Not sure it even is using gps.

To ban stuff like this you have to ban a lot of useful tech

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

GPS is mentioned.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This already would fall under an FFL license for legal citizens anyway. As is the nature of the internet though, this open design will be preserved and available for those who seek it.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Being in that category just prevents it from being sold. It's not illegal federally to build your own weapon without a FFL.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the same rule for destructive devices? Genuinely curious - I know privately made firearms have different rules.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No, for a destructive device you have to file a form 1.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 22 hours ago

Ah, thanks for the clarification. Granted I live in a state where this is unobtanium officially anyway.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes. I am actually surprised we haven’t seen a major terrorist attack in a western country using remote controlled or autonomous drones for example. The technology has been available for years now.

3D printed home made guns like the FGC-9 and Urutau have been around for a while now, but remain marginal in gun crime.

As you say, the cat is out the bag and on the internet forever. However homemade guns and instructions on how to make them have been around for decades.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago

The lack of simple attacks on soft targets is proof that the threat is overstated and that a statistically overwhelming portion of humans simply don't want to put bombs on busses and rig them to explode on bridges or in tunnels.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Most western terrorist attacks are by opportunistic losers who don’t have the knowledge or motivation to do something like this.

They’d rather drive a car into people who make them angry and use a gun they already own.

As for organized groups until recently there have been any good reason for an attack from any centrally organized group.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ukraine and Russia are western countries. Narco cartels have started using fpv drones, too.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

We really should call them northern countries at this point

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

LOL. Like they "ban" some guns?.

Printers are not hard to assemble from parts.

[–] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder if there is some archive or torrent for STL files, like an archive of thingiverse or something. Would be nice to archive that just in case.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is that even necessary? Anyone with a CAD tool can recreate the 3D printed parts from a glance and a few specs.

It's literally a tube. Which—to be fair—is a "weapon of mass destruction" according to President Bush (the other war criminal president).