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Will libs have a collective realization about Ukraine like they did with Iraq or will they stay stubborn in it forever? (hexbear.net)
submitted 2 years ago by autismdragon@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net
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I think a material difference between Iraq (v2 anyway) and Ukraine is that they can keep doing the "well Russia was the aggressor" thing indefinitely even if the reality is more complicated.

also yes obviously some libs are still stubborn about Iraq, the worst ones, but for the most part its generally agreed that the Iraq War was a bad thing.

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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's a lot of words for "no."

Just say you supported the Maidan coup.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

Most Westerners who watched the news did shrug-outta-hecks

At the time my impression was "brave Ukrainian students ousting their corrupt Russian minion of a president so they can join the EU and become a proper European country instead of a depressing Soviet hellhole"

That's still the level most people are operating on

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think a lot of people naivly-as-opposed-to-maliciously believe what doublepepperoni said.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think people on Hexbear often forget how different the world looks to the average person in the West

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I mean, I exist in the West, I'm well aware of how bad the typical person's politics regarding foreign countries are.