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Thanks, your answer was really good too, and you mentioned some important things I shouldn't have left out!
Like you talked about the ACP's disgusting bigotry (misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, general anti LGBTQ statements and activity, especially anti-trans) which is a very important aspect that should never be left out when talking about them. Even though a lot of them would probably deny their bigotry, that's just part of how slimy and untruthful they are. It depends a bit on which of them you talk to, but some openly admit it, but they all still follow bigoted lines simply because it is a reactionary org. You gave actual examples of some of the shit they say and do which I didn't get into at all. You also mentioned the term Patsoc (for other readers who don't know, that's short for "patriotic socialist") which I forgot to do, and how that is a fundamentally chauvinistic stance to take about a settler colony and a stark contradiction with the Leninist concept of imperialism.
All of that needed to be said too. The only thing I might disagree with you about is that it may be ok to join them if there are no other orgs around. If you're in an area that bad off, you would do better to start your own chapter of an actual communist org. I would say to never give them any kind of validation let alone financial support through joining them. It's too inherently rotten to try to "change it from within."