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[–] deacon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Not disputing the homoeroticism of the bible but to my admittedly limited understanding, their friendship was probably largely retconned and most of that story is likely because David killed Saul and all his family, including Jonathan, in a coup, after siding with the enemies of the Israelites.

Certainly the story of David is rife with propaganda about how David totally could have killed Saul if he wanted to. It’s because he probably did kill him.

For that matter, Solomon was probably not David’s son but killed him in a coup and the story of David and Bathsheba is to legitimize his reign.

I’m just a layman who reads about this a lot but hasn’t mastered it so I welcome any correction from folks who are closer to it.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"the soul of Jonathan was knit to the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as himself."

"Then Jonathan made a covenant with David because he loved him as himself. Jonathan stripped himself of the robe that was on him and gave it to David,"

"Your love to me was more wonderful than the love of women."

that ain't homoeroticism, a bit more obvious and and it might as well be gay smut.

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I am 1000% here for the smut, I am just saying I think it’s more like 7th century BCE erotic fan fiction than totally historical smut.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

but it's biblical 7th Century BCE gay erotic fan fiction

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Oh I see your point. Yes, fully agreed. I was confusingly using smut and homoeroticism interchangeably, which probably says things about me.

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I’m just a layman who reads about this

Well that's already more than most christians can say

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

That tracks with my experience being home schooled K-12 by young earth evangelical creationists. I didn’t start learning anything about the bible until I was in the process of deconstructing just in the last 5 years.

Christians in general, but Vangies in particular, generally read the bible like a cook book.