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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_China

Despite this, public health insurance generally only covers about half of medical costs, with the proportion lower for serious or chronic illnesses.

And according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quan_Hongchan

Her mother was hit by a car on the way to work in 2017 and suffered a serious injury.

While it sounds better than the US by leaps and bounds, it seems like Chinese people that aren't rich can still be financially ruined by medical situations that the rich get to buy their way out of.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

These healthcare costs are not something those familiar with private healthcare may be familiar with, a prescription for $4 costs a Chinese citizen up to $2. Setting and casting a leg for $60 may cast a Chinese citizen $30. My Chinese friends tell me their medical costs because they know it fascinates me.

it seems like Chinese people that aren’t rich can still be financially ruined by medical situations

Fortunately not for Chinese citizens, most poor and middle class Chinese can afford medical care. 95% of China is covered for nearly all medical conditions, and those costs are very reasonable, even taking into account the drastically lower salaries and cost of living there. Several government policies like medical tourism taxes and family pay plans are in place specifically to ensure costs are affordable for as much of the gen pop as possible.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Setting and casting a leg for $60 may cost a Chinese citizen $30.

But ... that's still going to really suck if you only have $10...

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

$10 is great if they need wisdom teeth pulled. Costs about 80 cents each, so they'd still have almost $7 left after pulling all four.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

"Sorry, we can't fix your broken leg, since you can't afford it. Want some teeth pulled out, though? You could afford that!"

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In China it's more like "Ten dollars gets you a set leg, four wisdom teeth and we'll throw in the pain pills".

Nationalized health care is where it's at.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Is $0 not an option?

It's not like you really need to incentivize people not to seek out unneeded healthcare. People (generally) don't go to the doctor just for fun.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yes, other than the $0 teeth extraction and medications mentioned above, Chinese patients often have other $0 medical expenses like doctor visits and consults.

I used to wonder why my Chinese friends went to the hospital so often, it seemed their trip was "for fun" sometimes. Then I found out that their copay is usually free or under a dollar, and my perspective changed.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn. China has more expensive healthcare than Japan. I didn't expect that.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That sounds incorrect. Where did you hear that?

Having experienced both, healthcare in China has always been wayyy cheaper than Japan.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Japan. You pay 30% of the cost here compared to 50%.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Often in China, a patient pays 0%(teeth extraction as mentioned above, for example), but if we imagined the 50% copay was a hard rule, the important component is cost basis, 30% of what vs. 50% of what.

30% of $200 vs. 50% of $40 for an identical pair of glasses means someone in japan paying 30% is paying $66 white someone in China paying 50% is paying $20, less than a third of the price for the same treatment.

The uninsured cost basis is extremely low in China.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Similarly many procedures for vulnerable people or those with lower incomes are completely covered in Japan.

I get what you're saying regarding the proportion compared to the total cost. But Japan's minimum wage is over three times that of Shanghai's and a higher payment proportion disproportionally impacts Chinese people with lower incomes.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

As the Chinese healthcare cost basis is so low and government programs specifically focus on providing and facilitating care for low-income individuals, lower-income Chinese populations don't have the healthcare inaccessibility issue that you often see in other countries.

Given the prices, policies, and disparate income populations receiving healthcare i'm familiar with there and hete, it's going to be difficult convincing me healthcare is more expensive or less accessible in China than Japan since the information online and especially on the ground doesn't agree.