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Why would Iran hit us?! REEEE
Alright, I'd like to push back on this. Regardless pf the actions of US funded Kurdish groups, to be apathetic towards an extermination of the Kurdish people is going much too far.
It should be noted that among Kurds, Iranian kurds are the least Gung ho about forming Kurdistan as I understand.
Honestly I think the Kurdistan project as a whole is just not worth it, and instead an effort should be made within any actual anti-imperialist kurdish groups to advocate for regional federations/confederations.
West Asia doesn't need more divided states. It needs unity and mutual development. Kurds are but one part of an extremely diverse region, why should every one of these groups be relegated to increasingly small states instead of a larger regional project?
I agree that the best case scenario would be for all the countries to collaborate with ethnic minorities within them and celebrate them in the way that China celebrates its 55 minorities.
However, you need money and prosperity to be able to do that (e.g. to pay for affirmative action policies to rectify historical discrimination). Right now, the U.S. constantly uses these minorities as liabilities for terrorism, preventing the countries they're in from getting to the point of development that they could treat them better.
China had to spend billions on education, development, and 'handouts' to stop US-funded Uyghur terrorism and instead make them feel invested in China's development.
The issue is like chicken and egg until the US stops sponsoring terrorism from minorities across the Middle East.
Yes this is true that the US exploits ethnic tensions in the region, however our support should never go behind an effort to solve that problem through explicit ethnic cleansing. That will only further the divisions and provide the US with a reactionary mass for which they can use against their enemies.
I'm saying that if a Kurdush group within Iran or any other country wants to be anti-imperialist, then they should be advocating for harmony within their own country over Separatism. Unless they are fighting a US/NATO ally like Türkiye.
Agree. I'm just looking at the problem from the perspective of the state.
The problem with the kurds is that they have no overarching leadership. Its four national factions that are losely ethnically related. The Iraqi faction is a organized crime org, the syrian one wants to copy Israel, the turkish one is alright but their leadership is split and as shown here There are multiple iranian ones. Propably some on the governments side, some not, some on the sidelines.
So talking about "the kurds" as if they were a organized force is plain wrong.
The most United 'horizontally organized movement" by the Anarchists (or whatever they call them now).
Gotcha. In a way that's good, as it makes united Kurdistan basically impossible until the groups figure out their differences and unite.
It's so frustrating and delusional. They could have stayed out of it but their plans to form a greater Kurdistan are too alluring to the fascists among them.
In Syria, Bashar al-Assad was deliberately letting the Kurds be, even when they were occupying Syria's oil fields. As soon as US-backed Al-Jolani came in, he starts cutting all the Kurds' heads off.
I don't know at what point the Kurds believe they will have their own state. Maybe once all the countries that potential Kurdistan spans across are ruled by different versions of al-Jolani, and Kurds are getting their heads chopped off everywhere, then they can form the Kurdistan they want in heaven.
At this point I kind of understand why Erdogan finds Kurds so annoying.
I'll look into Al-Jolani, I appreciate the information a lot.
I know more about Turkey's history and they've been oppressing all their minorities, including Kurds, way before Erdogan was around. It definitely doesn't help when the main minority in your country can be used as an US asset though.
Kurds went from Marxist revolutionaries to ISIS lite. This is what happens when a persecuted group abandons its principled ideological line against imperialism.
I mean did something happen that made them do that? Usually it's the west killing all the people who read theory
Yes, exactly that.
me, when my base assumptions involving no research line up with reality:
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