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The Pentagon’s Claude Use in Iran Is a Reminder that Anthropic Never Objected to Military Use (gizmodo.com)

submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by FallenWalnut@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43768262

Some may have believed they were against AI being used for war. They just don’t want it to make the final kill decision.

The argument given by those supporting them is that AI in the military was inevitable, so their position is a reasonable one.

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[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 15 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

My understanding is that it's not military use broadly that they object to but the use of their systems for the development of fully autonomous drones.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 18 hours ago

This is incorrect.

Anthropic contradicts this, showing an aggressive willingness to work with the Trump department of "War."

Even fully autonomous weapons (those that take humans out of the loop entirely and automate selecting and engaging targets) may prove critical for our national defense... We have offered to work directly with the Department of War on R&D to improve the reliability of these systems

[+] XLE@piefed.social -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

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[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's the full quote including the parts you conveniently left out.

Even fully autonomous weapons (those that take humans out of the loop entirely and automate selecting and engaging targets) may prove critical for our national defense. But today, frontier AI systems are simply not reliable enough to power fully autonomous weapons. We will not knowingly provide a product that puts America’s warfighters and civilians at risk. We have offered to work directly with the Department of War on R&D to improve the reliability of these systems, but they have not accepted this offer.

Our strong preference is to continue to serve the Department and our warfighters—with our two requested safeguards in place.

Source

[–] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

You said Anthropic didn't want to develop autonomous weapons. Anthropic contradicts you. They do want to develop them.

Can you acknowledge this fact?

I love how Anthropic only draws the line at autonomously killing Americans, too. I guess some lives are worth more than others.

[–] threeganzi@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You have a point, but perhaps try a softer tone next time. I think that would help your argument.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

They're building tools to from half way across the world and you're worried about the tone?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's not a very solid point. They said they may become necessary at some point, but right now they're irresponsible.

They're not ruling it out in the future, but their focus is on today's problem.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 2 points 18 hours ago

Serinus, did you see the part where Anthropic wants to develop them with the US military?