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[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but like, what if some people want to punish more harshly than others? What if others don't want to punish an action at all?

Say someone from outside the community steals and eats a bull that was used for labor in the fields. The farmers want that person dead. An even amount of non farmers want that person simply jailed for awhile or have them do community service. A minority want no punishment because they believe stealing food shouldn't be a crime because the food is for everyone, and eating is a necessity.

Now how do you decide? What if the farmers just don't wanna follow the decision anyway? Then what do you do with the farmers since they went against the majority decision?

I can imagine organization, procedures, and community without hierarchy. I can also imagine that it can go wrong. If you think humans only work in Utopic ways, then that is a skill issue. Because when such events happen, not if, and there's no potential plan for it, guess what? That's when it falls apart.

Early humans by default operated on anarchism. There's a reason new methods of governing came to exist as societies grew much larger.

[–] Comrade_Spood@quokk.au 1 points 9 hours ago

Well first of all you solve that through using rehabilitative justice instead of punitive. Second of all why the fuck would anyone do what you hypothetical says if they have access to food? And in the event there isn't, you are talking extreme situations like famine where any system would struggle. Ideally those kinds of situations are prepared for with established procedures ahead of time.

Thirdly, news flash, our society rn is flawed. Every system is flawed, just like people. Personally I would prefer a flawed system that isn't upheld through monopolized violence by a ruling class than one with it. Ya know the whole quote about how people who choose safety over freedom get neither sorta thing.