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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As I always say when this comes up...

If you've got a plan to make it happen before the next election, I'm on-fucking-board. Otherwise, harm reduction is not morally optional when the question is fascism vs. anyone less fascist, including neoliberal ghouls. The question of significant reduction of harm, even if in a still-fundamentally-fucked-system, is not something that can be dismissed on grounds of ideological purity, unless one holds that personal ideological purity with no concrete gain for the ideology's actual goals (and potentially significant damage to the cause) is worth the lives of millions of marginalized peoples.

Those in polities with less-fucked politics, electoral systems, and executive power than the USA might find it less necessary at present, but I would argue that the point is broadly applicable even there.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Personally I usually vote. Because I usually have welfare that if I didn’t have I wouldn’t be here much longer. So like for me voting feels life and death.

Even if I don’t see myself getting emancipated by vote. Hence I’m an anarchist. For me it’s more just survival. While 99% my political energy goes into prefiguration/direct action etc.

But I definitely also can understand people who won’t vote for the “less worse candidate”. If the less worse candidate has been bombing your family yeah no. No vote. Obviously.

But I do want to say, unless you philosophically reject all electoralism under the current system which is an arguable position I guess. Unless you do that, do at least vote primaries. That’s where we sometimes get better choices.

Don’t mistake them for emancipation. But it makes a hell of a lot of difference in, for example, many homeless people’s lives if buses are free and social housing is fast tracked and kitchens are well funded and police doesn’t harass for existing. It doesn’t save homeless people. The system put them where they are and the system must be dismantled. But it lets many of them survive a little longer.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Personally I usually vote. Because I usually have welfare that if I didn’t have I wouldn’t be here much longer. So like for me voting feels life and death.

Fucking mood. I'm currently fighting with healthcare and SNAP. As if dropping 40 pounds in the past fucking year and a half wasn't enough.

But I definitely also can understand people who won’t vote for the “less worse candidate”. If the less worse candidate has been bombing your family yeah no. No vote. Obviously.

Who does that serve? Murdering someone else's family? Murdering more members of one's own family?

Fuck, man, several million people are already slated for death because the less horrific candidate didn't win the last election in the fucking USA.

Voting isn't a love letter, and if someone thinks their feelings of moral purity are more important than lives of marginalized people, they aren't moral in the least.

Let me put it this way - the SPD, KPD, Zentrum, conservative parties, and the Nazi Party were all intensely homophobic. The SPD was less bad than the rest.

Is letting the Nazi Party win in Weimar Germany, then, a morally acceptable alternative to voting for the SPD, or any of the others, if you're a member of the LGBT community?

If a Ukrainian-American refused to vote for a candidate promising to stop supporting Israel's genocide against Palestine because the candidate didn't pledge any change in support for Ukraine in their struggle against Russian imperialism and genocide, would that be morally acceptable?

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great to hear you're on board! Please make your way to a local anarchist collective for more information.

Also, ha, "next election", good one.

Though I am curious: why are you not on board with plans that take more than one election? It's not like planning to break the system prevents you from voting in the mean time. You're allowed to have hobbies.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Also, ha, “next election”, good one.

Thanks, humor is the only thing that keeps me going in this kafkaesque nightmare of the coutnry

Though I am curious: why are you not on board with plans that take more than one election? It’s not like planning to break the system prevents you from voting in the mean time. You’re allowed to have hobbies.

I only mean that as in "If you want offer this course of action as an alternative to voting, it better take effect before the next election."

Reasonably speaking we should all be onboard for long-term planning for what comes after the fall of the current system.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I wish you had never learned the term "harm reduction". To apply it to an ongoing genocide is grotesque beyond description. There is no bargaining. No nuance. No complex structural analysis that can cast shadows upon such a bare moral outrage. Is there any bridge too far for you? Is there any atrocity you won't co-sign so long as double it is threatened? Draw a line and stand behind it.