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Would US separatist movements be possible and/or advisable? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 15 hours ago by Marat@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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I was thinking about it recently, and this is just a random thought I had it's not well developed, but I was Watching something on the uptick in separatist parties in the UK, and given the massive geographical range of the US I was wondering if separatist movements would be helpful.

This could be any separtist movement, from Chicano and African to Indigenous to Cascadian. I just feel like independence from the US is a lot more feasible in the short term rather than some form of revolution overtaking the whole country all at once. But like I said, it's an undeveloped thought (although I would prefer answers more than "i love balkanization" and "America is bad so yes." It's less a question of "is hurting america good" and more "is this the best way to do it?")

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 13 hours ago

I would not be surprised if some kind of secession caused by capitalist infighting happens before all is said and done, but I don't think it's advisable for communists to be pushing for it as a strategy.

The reason why is the same reason why AES states can survive but pockets of anarchist communes don't. The more divided you are, the harder it is to fight back against repression and reaction, the harder it is to organize anything logistically or do any kind of central planning, and you became a sitting duck for remaining imperial/capitalist forces to come in and destroy you.

Just because the US is big doesn't mean it can't be organized on a federal level. The US federal model proved that many times over. Yeah, it's been organized toward awful purposes so far, but point is, it has been done, logistically. And for another point of comparison, if China can manage to govern by vanguard a place that has over a billion people, USians can figure out how to do a third of that.

When it comes to an issue like indigenous, I see that as an entirely separate point. I would not expect indigenous nations to want to merge into a hypothetical ML state in the region. I would expect they'd want to retain autonomy and that the ML state would have it as a priority to give them support and room to flourish; gradually working to give back stewardship over the land where the numbers are there for them to do it, helping them with having the resources to grow and heal from the horrible situation colonialism put them in, things like that.