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Would US separatist movements be possible and/or advisable? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 11 hours ago by Marat@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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I was thinking about it recently, and this is just a random thought I had it's not well developed, but I was Watching something on the uptick in separatist parties in the UK, and given the massive geographical range of the US I was wondering if separatist movements would be helpful.

This could be any separtist movement, from Chicano and African to Indigenous to Cascadian. I just feel like independence from the US is a lot more feasible in the short term rather than some form of revolution overtaking the whole country all at once. But like I said, it's an undeveloped thought (although I would prefer answers more than "i love balkanization" and "America is bad so yes." It's less a question of "is hurting america good" and more "is this the best way to do it?")

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[–] DefectingToDPRK@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been thinking about this quite a bit as well. It seems like the most likely way that any kind of revolutionary movement would come to fruition in the US, as a countrywide revolution seems many levels more difficult.

Seeing CHAZ in Seattle during the BLM protests planted the seed in my head, specifically in the case of a Cascadia-type state. It would be a difficult split though to be sure, the USA would have a lot to lose to a breakaway state and I'm sure would put up a fight against it. If US imperialism is weakened enough and spread thin in conflicts elsewhere in the world, it could be a moment of opportunity for such a movement if proper organization is in place.

I also wonder if as US empire declines, and turns inward, if capitalist infighting will lead to some level of balkanization anyway.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

At some point there will have to be a reckoning. There are major areas of the country that don't want to live in Christofascism and these hogs will continue to push.

Unfortunately the split is more urban/rural than state based so chaos is a lot more likely than a clean split in my view. Still, I could definitely see wa/or/ca taking their ball and going home, especially if they continue to be subjected to retaliatory punitive policy. Not any time soon but in 20ish years or so