This was suggested to me by another user in the current big thread about this. I haven't finished watching it yet. It's from Poddy Mouth, a black creator. Apparently the video has perspectives from black people with Tourette's included. Might be valuable in this moment.
This is a (very short, < 5 minutes) video from a black elected official with Tourette's. He takes the position that an acknowledgement or apology is necessary. I think this was before the subsequent statement mentioned in the video linked in the post title was made (the following day), so I don't know if that statement would meet the standard this person had in mind for addressing the harm caused.
As I said in my other comments, I don't have the energy right now to really engage with this discussion further, and I don't want to accidentally cause harm by doing so. I just thought this video also belonged in this thread. Also as I said, if you have other such videos please do post them in this thread or in their own post.
Edit: this video, similar to the one linked in the post title, I got from a comment by another user in the previous thread.
I have been asked by another user to include the following info in the post body, which might be relevant to the discussion.
i think you should link this article directly from the guy with tourettes in the post: https://archive.is/GS647
this bit in particular would be helpful i think
Since the fallout, Davidson’s team shares that he’s reached out to the studio handling “Sinners” in order to directly apologize to Jordan, Lindo and production designer Hannah Beachler.
It has been pointed out that the discussions that happened on this post can be hard to follow for people who did not see prior posts discussing this subject. I think I wanted to avoid encouraging directly transferring the arguments from prior posts, but that was probably ridiculous to think. I have added them below.
Previous post: https://hexbear.net/post/7763428
Post before that: https://hexbear.net/post/7750273
I have been called a slur by people with an illness like five times this year.
I have been punched by a patient with a mental illness twice. (In total, not this year)
Although i will freely admit that my situation as a healthcare worker is atypical.
No one is fighting you on this. People are telling you that a person is being assigned motivations that he did not have, and that while feeling humiliated, denigrated, threatened or offended are all valid responses to this, you should bear in mind that he did not mean to do what he did. He also does not have a racism disease, this didn't reveal his secret inner thoughts and that assuming he is bigoted based on his Tourettes is misunderstanding how the disease works.
As a healthcare worker, do you think that patients do the same harmful behavior towards people they perceive as white vs black vs asian? Do you think doctors vs nurses vs orderlies/aides/techs vs admin vs management all catch quantity/quality of nastiness proportionate to their time in contact with patients? And then subdivide both of those into staff perceived as men vs women.
Or does the ostensibly uncontrolled shit seem to flow in the same way as all others in the expected patterns? yes some people will punch a white USian male doctor; but lots more will swing at the afrocarribean aide when she's trying to set up the food tray, whether she will mention to anyone or not.
these things are not distributed equally
I can't tell if what you want here is an admission of the existence of racism in healthcare, a fully irrelevant point, or that people will use different slurs, which is immaterial. Either way you are not being honest.
What do you do when you don't mean something that happened?
You all are projecting so many things onto this guy, how many time do we have to say we get that it's unintentional but we still don't like being called slurs?
No one is saying you have to like it. I literally said
And in the last thread I specifically said
You are shadowboxing.
but with him being a white disabled person there is still a power imbalance toward Black people, the impact of this situation matters because of his whiteness (his disability is a part of it but it cannot be seperated from his whiteness, that's the core aspect here and the basis of how to approach this intersectionally).
even if he didn't mean to, this impact can't be diminished or waved away by putting the onus entirely on his disability. there are ways to take an anti-racist approach if one knows their disability can have impacts on other marginalized communities to minimize harm before or after an incident such as this.
The man was seated in the back and specifically asked for the BBC to make sure he did not disrupt proceedings and his tics not be broadcast. He took precautions, he did everything that could reasonably be expected of him
That feelings are hurt is not nothing, and I have repeatedly stated the validity of such. But rhetoric like this is frankly absurd