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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

yahknow, if it wern't for the fact that i know they're a scummy company, i'd try them.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Why? Are they useful for anything other than proping up surveillance state?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

just wait patiently for valve to make some

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (5 children)

... Spoiler for you, but Valve is a shitty company.

Edit: whoosh the fanbois are out there! We don't share the same value if you think it's ok for 10 years old to become gambling addicts because of Valve's practices.

I deleted my Reddit account because it is increasingly becoming an echo chamber cesspool of extreme centrism. I was hoping Lemmy would be somehow better with people more prone to discuss. Ho, well

[–] chasteinsect@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe just maybe it's because it's not as black or white as you make it seem? Especially talking about a company that did so much for Linux and looking at what their competition is doing....

[–] yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

So it's ok for you to have 10 years old developing a gambling habit and potentially ruining their live, because hey they are pushing Linux in gaming?

[–] chasteinsect@programming.dev 1 points 25 minutes ago

I feel like you're straw-manning here.

I never said it's okay. All I'm saying is that a mega-corporation can simultaneously exploit psychological loopholes for profit (loot boxes) while actively pushing open-source ecosystems (Linux), providing great value to consumers and fighting other pc gaming monopolies (Microsoft). Look at the whole picture.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Did valve create the gambling games you mention?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I get why people like Valve so much (I like some of their services too) but there's too much deification. It's like "oh mighty Gabe!". I get some of it was tongue-in-cheek a bit initially but it seems so many people take it seriously.

They're a company that provides some services I like but the gambling shit is bad especially when you see people on YT talking about how they were lured in when they young and how much money was lost and how many streamers were running scam companies. It's not good.

[–] entwine@programming.dev 3 points 6 hours ago

I agree with you, but I get where the rabid fanboyism is coming from. The lack of competition in tech due to a variety of bullshit reasons (mostly corruption, look what Biden's FTC was trying to do compared to Trump 2's mask-off approach) have people pissed off and angry at the monopolists. Valve just so happens to be the least-bad monopolist in tech, so people like them.

People need to get competition-pilled, so they realize that Valve isn't our savior, and are in fact part of the problem too. They might be considered "good" today, but that's because our standards have never been so low.

Things can be, and should be better.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

name your top 5 good companies

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

I imagine you're focused on for-profit companies