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[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The "rule" is in the constitution. It even explicitly extends the term for parliament of ukraine by 5 years, and by their constitutional law it would be illegal for election to take place. Not to mention that you're missing the point about what is an election. It's not enough to put a ballot in the box. You must also provide the possibility to cast it for each citizen without external pressure, otherwise you can't trust the result. (Imagine if Russian soldiers were sent to collect the ballots with machine guns on their arms whether you'd like to join the Empire)

Ukrainian civilians are bombed daily. It's not exactly safe for them to vote. Not to mention the other 2 points, before.

NATO neutrality

I'm saying how it is, not what imaginative casus belli they are going for directed to the western audience. There was no way for Ukraine to join NATO due to ongoing conflict that started in 2014, so it never actually mattered for the neutrality question. Otherwise accepting Ukraine would also imply declaring war on Russia or at very least, freeze the conflict at Donbas with Crimea going to Russia.

When I'm talking about a land grab, I mean the idea to restore greater glory of the old russian empire or CCCP. It's not even hidden by now. Most high level (including Putin) politicians causally talks about it.

The country is rotten to the core. The one positive I heard is that reports about violence against women is actually handled by the police now. Mostly to fill in the vatnik quotas to send to the front.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The "rule" is in the constitution

It's not. It says elections can be delayed in time of war, not that they must be. Please go read it yourself, to dispel this frequent myth.

And regardless if it's constitutional, not holding elections is not democratic. Because that's what the word means.

There was no way for Ukraine to join NATO

That actually IS in the amended constitution. And the MAP was submitted in 2008i. https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/833852.html

vatnik

Do you even know what that word means?

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh cool. 2008 action plan to join NATO. 2014 War with Russia started. Sure the argument could stand there.

But riddle me this, why the invasion? The War never ended, so the argument that Ukraine can't join NATO stands.

I mean I completely understand why they would like to join NATO, considering how Russia Georgia war started 2008

Vatnik is how I call Russians that support the war by their action/inaction. It's pejorative. The true origin was a meme if I recall. Although the more I learn about Russia the more I hate the every day Russian

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Although the more I learn about Russia the more I hate the every day Russian

Meh, if we're going to blame the citizens for the country, my ire goes first to the US. Who's populous doesn't even have the excuses of WWII and the horrors of the 90s in Russia for their embrace of monsters.

Putin is a war criminal and should hang - but what he claims as precedents (illegal NATO unilateral bombing of Yugoslavia, illegal invasion of Iraq, etc) isn't made up either. The West is pretty ridiculous in yelling about warmongering when George W Bush is still a respected former President making pictures after killing a million people and most Americans can't even tell you what countries the US is bombing this week.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

US and it's imperialistic crimes are nothing to sneeze at. Not gonna come close to try and justify what they have done (banana wars for ex.) / are doing (terror campaign against it's citizens for ex.)