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the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing (quokk.au)

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[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Long description of my POV of apathy below. Please skip if it's a bother.

I'm open to differing views and to being convinced otherwise.

It's difficult to not be apathetic when you don't see any real changes. Whenever I comment something like this, I'd be hit by someone saying something like, "I'm distancing myself from people like that". And that's their decision, it's fine, but like, really, there's no good answer to that, innit?

There's little evidence pushing back is doing much. I don't believe in things without evidence. If you push people to "just believe" without evidence, aren't you the same as MAGAts?

At least, for the US, it seems useless. Nothing has happened to Trump or his Epstein accomplices despite the overwhelming evidence. Sure approval rates have gone below 30%, but what changed?

I may feel like there's (relatively) more hope in Europe. UK protests pushed back the digital ID system and now it's delayed for a few years at least.

I'm not sure we're winning against fascism, though. If there's good evidence for the positive impact of protests etc that have actually already happened under Trump era in destroying fascism, I'd like to know.

I think it's at least beneficial for community protection and surviving (ex: against ICE) but can you topple Trump and the Epstein class? Because I think that's what needs to be done for real lasting change. Alongside corporate hell.

I've personally mostly just shifted off terrible platforms like Reddit and Discord etc for selling people out to ICE, tracking, etc, because I'm afraid of Palantir leading to a thought-crime neo-nazi state. I don't believe my decision will bring or lead to systemic change, but it will help protect me to some extent at least.