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[–] konomi@piefed.blahaj.zone 122 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Showing genuine interest and caring about another person may get you a partner, who'd have thought it ~

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"My girlfriend is also my best friend" is a thing you see often in healthy relationships.

[–] cravl@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I never understood the whole aversion to "the friend zone." Like, isn't that exactly what you need to be first before you can build a romance on top?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When you're transitioning between pre-teen and teenager, and the hormones are hitting hard, kids often have a hard time processing unrequited affection

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That, and I think a lot of people confuse sexual attraction with love. The "friendzone" only exists when you end up in the mental gap between "I want to have sex with this person, but don't care about them as a person" and "I want to have sex with this person, therefore I must care about them as a person." Normal consenting adults can meet someone, vibe, and engage in sexual behavior without necessarily more. Normal consenting adults can also meet someone, not vibe, and be fine, if not a little disappointed. Normal consenting adults can also meet someone, vibe, and explore a romantic connection beyond sexual activity. Once you understand that sexual desire is not romantic desire, and that romantic desire is actually really unfulfilling if not reciprocated, you're usually good.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The “friendzone” only exists when you end up in the mental gap between “I want to have sex with this person, but don’t care about them as a person” and “I want to have sex with this person, therefore I must care about them as a person.”

I think there's definitely some confusion and frustration that comes from people who see their peers hooking up, but can't figure out what transitions them from a friendship to a romantic relationship. Add to this, a certain low-key distrust cultivated by social media, wherein one person may assume they are getting strung along while the other isn't willing/able to clearly signal their intentions.

Normal consenting adults can meet someone, vibe, and engage in sexual behavior without necessarily more.

Well... sometimes. The term "getting lucky" is apt, as there are so many variables - some totally beyond either of the participants' control - that can determine whether or not the magic happens.

Once you understand that sexual desire is not romantic desire, and that romantic desire is actually really unfulfilling if not reciprocated, you’re usually good.

No. You're "good" when you've found a person for whom you can reciprocate romantic love. Just understanding the difference isn't fulfilling so much as it is enlightening. But it's like hanging a steak over the head of a hungry dog. One dog heedlessly leaping at it isn't more or less fulfilled than another who has come to the realization it is forever out of reach.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah that's called vibing. And nah you're good lol, no one deserves a relationship. There are complete assholes that understand what I've said and don't have a partner; I'd say they're good. Being unfulfilled is part of life, and any adult is well aware of that, and is good regardless.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no one deserves a relationship

Alienation drives people nuts. Idk about "deserves", but everyone ultimately needs them to function normally. Folks who are shut up and hooked into the YouTube Vomit Cannon or the Twitter Racism Space to get all their socializing are the ones that burn out, melt down, or become Elon Musk.

Being unfulfilled is part of life, and any adult is well aware of that, and is good regardless.

Being unfulfilled creates motivation to change oneself. But being trapped in a sense of unfulfillment is toxic to the point of madness. If you've got no release for your anxiety or depression, you turn inward in a way that can get very dark over time.

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So note a few things:

  1. Alienation does drive people nuts. That has nothing to do with romantic fulfilment.
  2. Socializing isn't romantic fulfilment, and it's a little funny of you to bring up the former as a defense to why anyone deserves the latter
  3. Complaining about being trapped in a sense of unfulfillment is a non sequitur. What are you talking about? If you're so unfulfilled romantically that you'd rather kill yourself than treat women as equals? Sorry not sorry, some cases of terminal unfulfillment are fine, if the only cause is being a shit person. Be better.
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Alienation does drive people nuts.

Great news for anyone in solitary confinement.

Socializing isn’t romantic fulfilment

It is a necessary precondition

Complaining about being trapped in a sense of unfulfillment is a non sequitur.

No it isn't

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I do wonder if the "strsngers online" part didn't help.

You get, I dunno, call them the most popular/attractive women, who attract random compliments. Constantly getting strangers telling them "you're pretty." Coupoe with the actual weirdos sending them DMs like "Show me your feet," and that maked the woman bitter and jaded so even basic compliments start to get (justifiably) negative back, even if its "You're pretty" or even lesser comments (say, "I like your art").

Then those guys start to equate this behavior to every woman, including real life. Especially as it also starts to morph a bit on the women's side into "Dudes are all creeps."

And I am not trying to blame either men nor women here, just that it becomes its own toxic snowball that results in incels.

This also isn't helped by the 90-2000s epidemic of Movie and TV stereotypes in teen movies. Only hot jocks and cheerleaders are acceptable and nerds are ugly and terrible people.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also the theme from the time that you'd get the girl by harassing her until she caved.

But I'm not in a position to talk. I had to harass my wife a bit because she's just like me and forgets to respond to messages. But it was more like, "it's been a few days since she responded. I'll try once more and if I don't get an answer, I'll move on."

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Showing genuine interest in dick picks and caring about the other person getting off has been working wonders on Grindr