Fuck Cars
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A grand a month for a car? Only if you can afford to blow money. I bought my car used 6 years ago for $4,000. Between repairs and maintenance, tires, oil, repairs, etc I've spent about another $4,500. Plus $1,000 a year fuel (Prius). And $800 a year on insurance. So my all in cost is like $280 a month and dropping the longer I keep it. Plus what I can get from selling it.
I spend under $70/mo on my metro pass, and they’re normally “expensive”* at $104/mo. There are zero added costs, ever, except for if I didn’t also own a car I would need to use a carshare service probably once a month, but it’s hard to gauge since sometimes I use my car just to make sure it actually gets used. Without a car there are no parking fees, no gas, no maintenance, and not even any need to shovel snow or anything else that you likely don’t even realize you do simply to keep owning a vehicle.
$280/mo is a pretty bum deal to not even get other benefits like being driven around or never having to deal with the concept of rush hour.
What I dislike about the fuckcars instance. Ignorant people who just think people only live in big cities with public transport and that all of their families and friends and relatives they want to see are all there a mere bus ride or train trip away. Just ignorant to 90% of the land people live on. Most of the country requires a vehicle.
First, the post is literally about moving into a city.
Secondly, we all know that rural places exist and you’re not being smart for bringing it up as if we don’t. This sub is based almost entirely on making cities, which are inherently worse off with car-centrism, into better places.
Lastly, there is zero reason why rural communities need to be that spread out. You 1000% can have mid-density, walkable towns and many older villages in North America have town centers that are built closer to that ideal. Those places were then surrounded by sprawl and suffer greatly for it.
The ignorance is your own.
The post is also about cars costing you a thousand dollars a month that you could be saving. That number is just silly. You can have a car for significantly less.
Also, you're talking like you can just eliminate all of the small towns and housings and redo them to group them up. Any small places like that would still need to own vehicles in order to leave those small towns when needed. Not owning a vehicle is only a possibility in larger cities. Especially if you have to work outside of your town.
Saving the money by how, buddy? What other action comes along with that to make it so that one could be not needing the car?
And no, I am not saying that. I am saying that it does not need to be that way, and that we can build better when we build new things.
I genuinely can’t tell if you’re illiterate or simply stupid, but either way I’m going to go now because you are draining what little remaining hope for humanity I have from my body and I’d like to hang onto that.