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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You apparently can't read subtext. It's a fucking meme and you're trying to take it literally, missing the point entirely. It's clearly about drawing attention to the alienation of labor, wage stagnation, and the cost of living crisis. If you're incapable of picking up on that then you must be extremely privileged and sheltered.

someone that spends 8 hours a day digging a hole and filling it back up again.

The people who maintain your roads and water lines would like a word.

And a farmer that is hardworking and manages to produce 10 kg of grain per hour should be able to afford more than a lazy one producing 0.5kg per hour.

A couple fallacies here. 1) that's not how grain production works. It takes days of labor over an extended period (weeks and months) to produce a harvest. It's not a "kg of grain per hour" scenario.

  1. harvest output does not directly corelate with "working hard." Weather plays a role. Some seasons have better harvests than others. Some people own a few acres, some own hundreds of hectares. It's not "farmer who only produces .5kg is lazy."

  2. the people who own the land, in most cases, are not the ones doing the farming. The people doing the labor are often compensated the least. So your "hard work" fallacy is extremely flawed.

I can agree that all real jobs if done with an acceptable performance for 40h/week should be able to afford all that + more if those expenses are reasonable (a mansion rent and 1bedroom apartment rent are both rent).

You have to be extremely out of touch in order to think like that. Were you born into wealth or something?

People who are living paycheck to paycheck and struggling to make ends meet aren't worried about living in mansions. In some places, the shittiest studio apartments in the most run-down neighborhoods already cost $1000 a month or more. And if you're a family of four, you're gonna need something bigger than that.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you are arguing in good faith. And you're trying to derail this conversation in 20 different directions so I'm going to ignore 90% of your comment.

The reason the "subtext" is irrelevant is because there's no reason for it.

It's like making a post saying "all cats should be provided by restaurant-level handcrafted meals paid by the government". Then I comment "that is stupid and unsustainable". Then you come here saying "it's not stupid, every MINUTE there are cats dying of hunger all around the world! The post is not about restaurant-level meals! It's about feeding the poor unfortunate kitten that have been abandoned! Are you a soulless cat-hating human?"

And digging a hole just to fill it back again does not fix any pipes :) it just makes the soil a little bit looser.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're the one not arguing in good faith. Projection, much?

In this context, the "bread" is a symbol, being used to comment on a much broader range of social phenomena, just like political cartoons have always done since they were first invented.

Everyone else here seems to pick up on that, because they live through the reality every day of being overworked and underpaid while the cost of living goes further and further out of reach. The fact that you don't get it just tells everyone how glaringly out of touch you are with the plight of ordinary everyday people.

And your inane comparison to cats in restaurants is nothing more than a strawman, not worth even taking seriously.

And digging a hole just to fill it back again does not fix any pipes :) it just makes the soil a little bit looser.

Nobody is getting paid to dig a hole and fill it in without a reason, so your imaginary scenarios aren't going to convince anyone that the average worker is already getting paid enough, or that if anyone is poor they probably deserve it because their job is pointless or they don't work hard, or whatever point you're trying to make.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I have argued why I don't believe you're arguing in good faith. And your response to that is saying that I don't either.

You haven't either said why my argument is wrong nor why I am arguing in bad faith.

You just keep ignoring my points and accusing me of things without any argument behind the accusations.

So until you provide any argument for your accusations and start responding to my arguments. I will refuse to argue with you.