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DDoS hit blog that tried to uncover Archive.today founder's identity in 2023. [...] A Tumblr blog post apparently written by the Archive.today founder seems to generally confirm the emails’ veracity, but says the original version threatened to create “a patokallio.gay dating app,” not “a gyrovague.gay dating app.”

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Archive-today-Operator-uses-users-for-DDoS-attack-11171455.html:

By having Archive.today unknowingly let users access the Finnish blogger's URL, their IP addresses are transmitted to him. This could be a point of attack for prosecuting copyright infringements.

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Is it really an "unreliable source", though? The owner of the site is acting maliciously with regards to this DDOS, of course, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to act maliciously about the contents of archive.today itself.

One could make the case that the owner of archive.today was already flagrantly flouting copyright law, and therefore a criminal, and therefore "unreliable" right from the get-go. Let's not leap to conclusions here.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Using visiting clients for attacking makes the site malicious, and it's because the owner decided it should be, not because it was hacked or got served "spicy" ads or something.

Since this jarhead has no qualm in weaponizing his site, dragging every visitor into this, and threatening the owner of a small blog with creating a whole category of AI porn just for a blog post from 2 years ago: what if he decides he could use visiting clients for other uses, like crypto mining? If my wiki had 700k links pointing there, i'd think hard about my choices, and would want to reduce my dependency on such a source.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, I'm not saying this isn't "malicious."

I'm questioning why this particular instance of lawbreaking makes his site an "unreliable source", whereas all the copyright violation he's been up to all along didn't? And now you're bringing in speculative instances of future lawbreaking that also seem unrelated, what does crypto mining have to do with the reliability of the sources archived there?

My point here is that people are jumping from "he did something bad that I don't like!" to "therefore everything he does is bad and wrong!" Without a clear logical connection between those things. Sure, the DDOS thing is a good reason to try to avoid sending traffic to his site. But that has nothing to do with the reliability of the information stored there.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, your argument has been made by others on the RfC too, comparing the situation with Wikipedia linking to Anna's Archive.

Truth is, when being honest, Wikipedia should never have started linking there. It probably started out of noble intentions: making sure sources stay available for everyone.

Now a new factor has come into play - that the site is being weaponized. The admin there has surely the ability to modify whatever he wants, create fake articles, change the wording of others and so on, and has now proven - without a single doubt - that he is not trustworthy.

This means that the reliability of all hosted information has to be questioned as well. And here we are.

[–] milk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Wikipedia should have never linked there? There are legitimate reasons it has been used over archive.org presented in this very thread and multiple link archivers is definitely a good thing so I disagree that it should never have been linked to.

For the second point you can make the opposite claim using the same evidence: the admin has almost certainly had the ability to edit pages that have been archived to their site but does not appear to have done so, making them trustworthy. The fact that they are using it as a botnet does not mean that the information is incorrect and certainly not without a single doubt.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

First: It's pirated content. I do not have an issue with playing fast and loose with copyright, but Wikipedia shouldn't have started linking there, because pirated content of this volume has the side effect of involving authorities pretty fast. Wikipedia has enemies, they are rich and ressourceful, and this is an attack surface they shouldn't have.

Second: People do not tend to trust others who behave erratically, and when trust is eroded it's not so easy to fix it again. In reality it's this way: nobody knows if the content there has been modified, and trust was the only thing holding all this together.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Haven't seen anything to indicate that Masha Rabinovich / Denis Petrov / [whoever runs the site] is a jarhead. Where's that coming from?

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

In a later email, “Nora Puchreiner” wrote, “I do not care on your blog and its content. I just need the links from Heise and other media to be 404.” One message threatened to investigate “your Nazi grandfather” and “vibecode a gyrovague.gay dating app.” Another threatened to create a public association between Patokallio’s name and AI porn.

A Tumblr blog post apparently written by the Archive.today founder seems to generally confirm the emails’ veracity, but says the original version threatened to create “a patokallio.gay dating app,” not “a gyrovague.gay dating app.” The Tumblr blog has several other recent posts criticizing Patokallio and accusing him of hiding his real name. However, the Gyrovague blog shows Patokallio’s name in a sidebar and discloses that he works for Google in Sydney, Australia, while stating that the blog posts contain only his personal views.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Still not sure I follow but I'll look again.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 0 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

"[...] having such a noble and rare name, which in retaliation could be used for the name of a scam project or become a byword for a new category of AI porn…" is a citation of an email from the .today admin to the blogger.

for a 2 year old blog post.

This guy has serious issues, and it's not only the FBI.

[–] Aatube@thriv.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh. TIL.

My brain had it filed under "an aggressive, close-minded person". I probably read it somewhere in a context with the marines and conflated the expression with the image that the marines sometimes get attributed with - "eating crayons", being hyperaggressive and stuff like that.

[–] trk@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

My brain had it filed under "an aggressive, close-minded person".

Meets the definition perfectly

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Okay, where does "jarhead" come in from that? I'm missing something here.

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 2 points 15 hours ago

They have shown they are willing to participate in malicious activity by misusing their users' traffic, what's stopping them from carrying out malicious activity by misusing their content?

Even if that seems farfetched, by stepping from copyright infringement to cybercrime activities they painted a much larger target on their backs making it much less certain that they'd still be around next year.