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[–] codeinabox@programming.dev 74 points 16 hours ago (39 children)

This quote on the abstraction tower really stood out for me:

I saw someone on LinkedIn recently — early twenties, a few years into their career — lamenting that with AI they “didn’t really know what was going on anymore.” And I thought: mate, you were already so far up the abstraction chain you didn’t even realise you were teetering on top of a wobbly Jenga tower.

They’re writing TypeScript that compiles to JavaScript that runs in a V8 engine written in C++ that’s making system calls to an OS kernel that’s scheduling threads across cores they’ve never thought about, hitting RAM through a memory controller with caching layers they couldn’t diagram, all while npm pulls in 400 packages they’ve never read a line of.

But sure. AI is the moment they lost track of what’s happening.

The abstraction ship sailed decades ago. We just didn’t notice because each layer arrived gradually enough that we could pretend we still understood the whole stack. AI is just the layer that made the pretence impossible to maintain.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 36 points 16 hours ago (13 children)

LLMs don't add an abstraction layer. You can't competently produce software without understanding what they're outputting.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The author's point is that people already don't understand what the programs they write do, because of all the layered abstraction. That's still true whether or not you want to object to the semantics of calling the use of LLMs an abstraction layer.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 13 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not knowing what cpu instructions your code compiles to and not understanding the code you are compiling are completely different things. This is yet another article talking up the (not real) capability of LLM coding assistants, though in a more round about way. In fact, this garbage blogspam should go on the AI coding community that was made specifically because the subscribers of the programming community didn't want it here, yet we keep getting these trying to skirt the line.

[–] codeinabox@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

In fact, this garbage blogspam should go on the AI coding community that was made specifically because the subscribers of the programming community didn't want it here.

This article may mention AI coding but I made a very considered decision to post it in here because the primary focus is the author's relationship to programming, and hence worth sharing with the wider programming community.

Considering how many people have voted this up, I would take that as a sign I posted it in the appropriate community. If you don't feel this post is appropriate in this community, I'm happy to discuss that.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev -3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You made a very considered decision that you could argue it's not technically AI booster bullshit, you mean.

[–] codeinabox@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is the post is broadly about programming, and how that has changed over the decades, so I posted it in the community I thought was most appropriate.

If you're arguing that articles posted in this community can't discuss AI and its impact on programming, then that's something you'll need to take up with the moderators.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev -1 points 55 minutes ago

If I thought it was against the rules I'd report it instead of complaining. I complain because posting "I'm sad because everything is different now and also I'm all in in the hype actually" blogs 2 days in a row after agreeing not to post AI hype sure seems like you desperately want to post AI hype.

[–] queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I think there's room for people to try to grapple with the fact that, for good or ill, the industry is being impacted by LLM code assistants right now in a significant way. That doesn't mean this isn't a tech craze, or a flash in the pan, or a hype bubble that has gotten huge. And whether or not the bubble pops, I don't think it's unreasonable to think that code writing tools comparable to what we have now will be around for awhile, again for good or ill. This seems like a dev grappling, not sneaky AI booster bullshit.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

This seems like a dev grappling, not sneaky AI booster bullshit.

I could agree with you if this poster hadn't posted a very similar article the previous day, or if the writer wasn't saying "I'm now an architect for a fleet of agents" which is definitely AI booster bullshit.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Talking about low level compilers seems like moving the goalposts, since they are way more well defined and vetted than the mass of software libraries and copy pasted StackOverflow functions a large segment of programming has been done with.

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