Hello. I am looking for an alternative to Telegram and I prefer an application that uses decentralised servers. My question is: why is the xmpp+omemo protocol not recommended on websites when it is open source and decentralised? The privacyguides.org website does not list xmpp+omemo as a recommended messaging service. Nor does this website include it in its comparison of private messaging services.

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/assets/img/cover/real-time-communication.webp

Why do you think xmpp and its messaging clients such as Conversations, Movim, Gajim, etc. do not appear in these guides?

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[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Self host your matrix server, use Continuwuity not Synapse, and do not enable federation.

[–] Ignoranceisnotabliss@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No. https://forum.hackliberty.org/t/why-we-abandoned-matrix-the-dark-truth-about-user-security-and-safety/224

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 3 points 14 hours ago

I share your concerns with the matrix organization. Most of the other concerns on that article don't apply to a private instance with only just less than a handful of users who anyway live together or share more than an online existence.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then why bother with Matrix at all if that's not for the federation? You give yourself the trouble and inefficiencies of an over-engineered protocol you won't even use.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Because matrix has the bet bridges so I can centralize all other protocols on my matrix server (Continuwuity) and have whatsapp, telegram, Signal all accessible from one single app.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

All those bridges rely on some community-made libraries developed by few individuals unrelated to Matrix, so, not only there isn't much Matrix-specific to them, but it's reproduced for other protocols, JFYI: https://slidge.im/

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Good to know... Well I am on matrix now, so no need to switch, but will keep in mind.

[–] u_tamtam@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

At least you are on the continuwuity side of it, which is much more sane than hosting synapse (but you are missing out on many features I guess. If you get tired of this eventually, give ejabberd a shot, it's self-contained with all features, including VoIP/AV calls.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why not Synapse?

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 2 points 1 day ago

Super heavy, and overkill unless you need to run matrix.org itself.

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It runs like shit, at least when I tried it. Never heard of Continuwuity, will looks into it thanks.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its the rebirth of Conduit -> Conduwuit -> Continuwuity. Built with rust, it's a community project that is pretty stable and finally free of drama.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wait a sec, I run Conduit on my test machine and seems fine so far. What drama did I miss?

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Conduit has been dead in development for years now. Conduwuit was the successor, then some drama got it shut down and reborn (new maintainers) as Continuwuity.

Conduit saw no up grades in years IIRC and its basically abandoned I guess.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining. But unless I'm missing something, Conduit doesn't seem to be quite dead just yet. I got upgrade notifications throughout 2025, the latest two being in December; one for v0.10.10 and the other for v0.10.11.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 3 points 13 hours ago

Good to know!