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[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (22 children)

This is true.

...but if you've never been in a group project where one person does nothing and demands equal praise, compensation, etc.. you're lying.

That's one of the big theoretical problems with socialism, you want equality, but plenty of people think they're helping when they're doing jack and then they get defensive when you suggest they do something for the community too.

And that's not about people who genuinely need help and support and actually can't be expected to deliver the same work as someone who objectively doesn't need that help. People who need help should be helped.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Well, that's a fucked up comparison.

People that do nothing are very probably unmotivated, depressed or simply not good at that particular skill.

Given the opportunity, the vast majority of human beings don't want to sit around doing nothing.

The capitalist world we live forces people to do jobs they don't like to pay for things they don't need.

With our level of technology we should all be living in a post scarcity society, doing fulfilling things that we like.

The only beneficiaries of this system are the deranged money and power hoarders that suck the life of everyone else.

They created this narrative that people are lazy and sadly it has been very effective.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They created this narrative that people are lazy and sadly it has been very effective.

That's not me falling for a narrative, I've been in group projects, that's my lived experience. I'm telling you I've seen it and you're telling me that's actually not true and theoretically impossible. Which is ridiculous.

Also, being useless doesn't equal being lazy. People can be very busy and work themselves to the bone and accomplish nothing. But I've also still seen people be lazy and wanting to earn credit for my efforts.

[–] pipi1234@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe I didn't explain myself.

Your comparison of the whole human workforce with group projects is insufficient at best.

People in group projects might not want to be there at all, that doesn't mean they are lazy thou.

Furthermore stressing the importance of a free and fair workforce market, in which each person talent and interest is well remunerated valued.

What we have is a lot of overpayed professions that steer the workforce to them, whether they like it or not.

Ex.: I would probably be much happier fixing appliances but that doesn't pay as well as well as Software development so I ended doing that.

And I can tell you without a doubt which of these professions should be most regarded.

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