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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Receiving payment for living space is the same as slave labor, that's a pretty wild take.

[–] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

If the payment received exceeds the costs a profit is generated. That profit represents appropriation of surplus value. Surplus value corresponds to the uncompensated (or in this case, compensated but later misappropriated) expense of labor power.

What specific part of this argument do you think is objectionable?

[–] low@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Uhh the renter can refuse the agreement and build a house if that's what they wanna do... you don't have to rent?

[–] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're right. It's also true that if I don't wish to expend my labor power in exchange for compensation, I can also buy a factory where I buy materials and labor and sell them for more than they cost.

Can you think of any reason why, when done at scale, these sorts of activities create a class system where not everyone can simply buy a plot of land and build a house, or be an industrial entrepreneur? That there will actually have to be many times as many people who have to sell their labor and pay rent?

Can you think of a way in which the possibility to create profit out of land adds value to that land that is unrealizable to someone who buys it and just lives in it, and is realizable for someone who plans to rent it at market price?

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