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[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I wish we would stop stretching land masses and start stretching oceans in basic maps. We don't need the Mercator for naval navigation in our day to day lives, but knowing the real size of Russia and Africa would affect our basic view of the world.

[–] mech@feddit.org 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In which Asia's and Africa's claim to "continent" status looks suddenly shaky, and Europe's completely laughable.

[–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

If Africa was the same continent as Asia, it should be easy to walk across.
But you literally can't. The only connections are a freeway bridge (currently closed), a railway bridge, a road tunnel and ferries. And geologically, an ocean is in the process of opening up in between.

As for Europe, it doesn't even have its own continental plate.
It's less of a continent than India.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

geologically, an ocean is in the process of opening up in between

Hardly. Africa is converging with Europe and the Med is being crushed. It's only moving away from Arabia.

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe the oceanbuilding process between Africa and Asia stopped after I finished my MSc in Geoscience 10 years ago, but I doubt it.

It’s only moving away from Arabia.

Never said it would move away from anything else.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

stopped after I finished my MSc in Geoscience

This snarky argument from authority is redundant given that the facts are extremely easy to understand and outlined in the Wikipedia article I cited.

The biggest gap between Africa and Eurasia (PS; we agree that Europe is not a continent) is the Mediterranean sea, and it is getting smaller. That does seem relevant.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

The Red Sea is what’s becoming an ocean, technically speaking.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

If Africa was the same continent as Asia, it should be easy to walk across.

They literally had to dig the Suez channel to separate both.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

India is only not often counted as a continent because it decided to bum rush Asia, creating work for generations of sherpas dragging half-dead white men up excitingly tall mountains in the process.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

except that continents quite plainly aren't just about landmasses, they're defined by culture as well. Hence why most people these days consider "oceania" a continent, and why india and the middle east don't really fit smoothly into any standard continent.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

There seems to be a better name for what you are talking about. Fair point about Oceania though, that's as uncontinental as Europe.

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If stretching is ok, then why not go all the way.

If you dislike stretching, you can always cut instead. That's why we also have a series of octahedral butterfly maps.

If that's not polyhedral enough, you could try the Dymaxion projection instead.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That butterfly one looks sick, I'm not a fan of the overplayed "world map in a cool material" wall-art but this one might get a pass depending on the execution.

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are several projections that follow this butterfly style. Still haven’t decided which one I want on my wall. There’s a local laser cutting company that definitely could make one out of plywood. I think it would look awesome.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Actually, azimuthal equidistant is unironically useful if it centers on you.

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely. In a sailing context, it would totally make sense to have a digital map like that. I don't know if professional navigators actually do that though. Maybe they have some even more obscure projection that has some unique benefits that fit a particular niche.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Specifically, radio operators like them - with a directional antenna, it matters which direction goes from Canada to Australia the fastest, and if your station is fixed it can even be a paper map.

I don't know what sailing yachts would use. Probably a close-up map that's nearly flat anyway, since surf, wind direction and local obstacles are the main consideration. In commercial or military sailing, it's entirely possible normal navigation just takes place automatically and digitally at this point. Sextant, compass and Mercator still exist as a backup, though!

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

In a military context, you absolutely need to have robust backups. If your ship gets badly damaged you better be familiar with star charts and sextants.

Oh, and that radio operator thing makes a lot of sense too.

Thanks, I hate you.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

i honestly really like dymaxion because it's a nice aspect ratio and keeping the landmasses all together just feels right.

And it doesn't even look strange if you just remove the ocean

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

S-tier cartography right there.