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A newborn baby has died in New Mexico from a Listeria infection that state health officials say was likely contracted from raw (unpasteurized) milk that the babyโ€™s mother drank during pregnancy.

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[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't underestimate the dangers of being caught in an info bubble.

There are (legitimate) worries about ultra processed food. Extending that to milk, and concluding that unprocessed milk is better is easy and reasonable. Taking that further to raw milk being better then seems equally reasonable. If you don't get info from outside your bubble then it's easy to end up where the mum was.

It's also worth noting that less processed milk can taste considerably better than supermarket milk. I get (pasteurised) milk delivered from a local dairy. It's significantly better, taste wise. Attributing that difference to being raw would be very easy. It then reinforces the biased information, and makes it look reliable.

[โ€“] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pasteurization is just a heating process. I can't speak to what Americans do with their milk, that might be considered "processing"...but pasteurization is as safe as it gets. Most of the time it's also spun through a filtered cylinder that "skims" off the heavier cream, making two products out of one. There shouldn't be any chemicals involved in the process.

Not doing this, means that all the bacteria from the cow is left alive and thriving inside the milk. That is fucking gross. People who advocate for "raw milk" may as well just say, "we left all the diseases in for you, because you think it's healthier that way".

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI, the milk I drink is still pasteurised.

Most supermarket milk is skimmed, then some cream gets added back and it's homogenised. That process seems to remove a lot of flavour/texture.

My point was that someone who jumped from supermarket milk to raw milk would likely notice the same flavour improvement. This could then misattribute it to being raw, rather than just better milk.

[โ€“] cuerdo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So do they sell this better, pasteurized milk? I remember I once bought a milk for making latte which was like 9$ and it was really good.

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm UK based, and use Hanover Daries

The milk is sourced from a local dairy and delivered in glass bottles. It's a little bit more expensive, but worth it for the extra quality. As a side bonus, it's less food miles and supports local business.

[โ€“] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Biases & fallacy of incomplete evidence are not reasonable. Their willful ignorance is completely blameworthy.

[โ€“] cynar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My point is that it wasn't necessarily willful ignorance. During pregnancy, women get an insane amount of information and warnings dumped on them. Filtering out the useless crap from the absolutely critical is not an easy task. That's also without accounting for hormone induced "baby brain" throwing cognitive processes out of kilter.

It's terrifyingly easy to make mistakes of this type, even for the intelligent. Saying the baby is better off dead is cruel and victim blaming.

[โ€“] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

By the time they're pregnant, they've been on this planet long enough to know basic information literacy. The warnings of this fringe trend are commonplace. Rationalizing this idiocy is pathetic.

Saying the baby is better off dead is cruel and victim blaming.

and true. No fucks given: opinion of "cruel and victim blaming" discarded.