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Wayland didn’t kill Linux desktops, but it did expose their weakest assumptions [EDIT: Warning, article likely written with AI assistance] (www.xda-developers.com)

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's pretty much standard for Linux given that stuff like systemd and flatpak exist. If you want to use something more traditional unix-y, maybe you should use a bsd or solaris derivative or something.

That's a pretty toxic take, much in the way like Windows does things.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean the person I'm responding to seems to want a traditional Unix experience given how they're talking (and given they use suckless software). Linux generally isn't that, and it never really has been (or at least hasn't for many years). If you want something more traditional, there are a bunch of available options like the BSDs. If you insist on using Linux, you can use distros that don't use Wayland, systemd, flatpak, etc., but the support for them is lower, and if you need to use something that isn't packaged for example you'll need to deal with getting it working with e.g. systemd on your own. A bunch of software makes assumptions that stuff like systemd is now included if you use Linux. I'm currently using a distro without systemd and am seriously considering swapping back to my old one because it's such a hassle.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Admitedly, i'm currently in a "take a step back" phase and like to see software breaking. It's healthy for the linux ecosystem if things break.
And in software that is a hassle (usually Gnomes on a not-Gnome environment) either the software itself is really good and somebody made a patch or packaged a old working version already. Or i look for something simpler to do the same.