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Hello new Lemmy friends!
Word on the street tells us our community is regularly making it the all page. While this is very cool news to hear, we can see how the sudden emergence of our posts in your feed might feel jarring and probably raises some questions. And also how, without knowing the backstory, our community might appear less than virtuous, so here’s a very brief introduction which hopefully will clear a few things up.
The woman we’re discussing is a body positive influencer and media personality who has gained fame and wealth by lying, manipulating, exploiting her children for content, plagiarizing BIPOC creators and blaming her BIPOC content editor for it (thereby ruining her career), among other things. Her fraudulent behavior is no different (I’d argue worse) from the likes of Jay Shetty (google him if you don’t know who he is or what he did). She’s the latest in a long line of grifting influencers who are abusing their power, taking advantage of their position and exploiting their followers. The difference is that she’s Canadian. Our laws around social media and advertising aren’t as clear (and where they are she’s disobeyed them), add to that, our mainstream media has protected her from those who’ve tried to expose her grift and silenced/intimidated anyone who’s tried to speak out.
Our Reddit sub was taken down due to reports of copyright infringement, which is unfounded and categorically untrue as no one ever tried to steal her work and pass it off as their own. The mods have made an appeal. While at first glance it may seem like we’re just “shitting on her” the sub has been more devoted to investigation and posting proof of her lies than just bitching for the sake of bitching. The reality is that she’s hurt, manipulated and let down a lot of people. She stole intellectual property and employment, caused mental distress and has repeatedly told lies to boost engagement and profit off her audience, so people are understandably upset that their voices are being silenced.
We’re grateful to have been welcomed so kindly by so many of you, and to those sticking around to watch the drama unfold, we’re glad to have you!
**all posts are alleged.
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-Please follow Lemmy content guidelines. See https://lemmy.ca/
-Minor's Right to Privacy: No posts about the children whatsoever. No mention of full names and no photos. Minors must be completely removed from all photos/videos. No exceptions. This goes for ANY child. No just TBP's.
-No snarking on the character or appearance of any of the children. This is a site dedicated to Sarah Landry.
-No posting information that is not readily available online/NoDoxxing: Influencers post an abundance of personal information online. Examples of doxxing include:
- Posting an individual's phone number or address on the internet.
- Releasing information about an individual's family, place of employment, or other private documents.
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I'm seeing that!! I was being legit and honest. Like, irl when someone "doesn't like someone" there's a level of jealousy there. Mention it here and I got my head bit off! I read the "intro" from Lemmy and now I'm falling through a huge rabbit hole of people who legitimately hate her and my eyes are very open now. I appreciate this discussion and correspondence.
People can dislike other people without being jealous. Comparison doesn't guide everyone's thought process, like it seems to for Sarah. For example, I don't like Trump. I'm not jealous of him. If you believe there is a level of jealousy when someone doesn't like someone, I can understand your attraction to the Birds Papaya. She may have felt like a comrade in arms. GumboYaYa made a great point about mothers who tell their daughters, “Oh, honey, they are just jealous of you”. My Mother never did that; maybe your mother and Sarah's mother did. I'm not saying this to shame you. Maybe those drawn to Sarah were raised by mothers who lacked self-awareness.
Ok let's chat then. But I'd appreciate it if you took a breather first.
Not liking her because she lies, deceits, uses filters, is genuinely a bad mother or wife - cool. I can get with that.
Making fun of her teeth, saying she is ugly, she "probably made so much money on that" - from an outsiders perspective, yeah, some of it sounds like jealousy; not in the "I wish I looked like her" way, but in a "I kind of wish I had what she has" way. Especially when you haven't met her or actually interacted with her.
THAT BEING SAID. I have been reading tons of threads, posts, snarks (literally JUST discovered that word and what it means...) and while I see much of the disapproval of BP as legitimate (as I requested in my original post) perhaps the disdain has encompassed the persona AND the looks (that she manipulates and makes money off of).
So chill. There's no ulterior motive here. I'm genuinely curious, and up until literally a couple months ago, I was an avid follower of the BP and now I'm learning who she truly is and I, too, feel manipulated, lied to and like an utter fool for believing in her and genuinely liking her.
But attacking me - someone who you have never met - doesn't make you any better than her.
I don’t think anyone here ‘wants what she has’ since she doesn’t seem to have anything that really matters. She has a lot of material wealth but seems to lack any long-lasting friendships. Her relationships all appear transactional. She’s just ended her second marriage. That’s not something most people want. She seems to lack any real curiosity about the world or anything meaningful. Her life seems very empty to me. She’s spending her time chasing fame without any real talent. I would rather not spend my days taking picture of myself in my underwear and preach about wearing bikinis like that’s the most important thing.
Note that when certain things are mentioned like her teeth or lips, it’s often referring to her “real” teeth showing vs her filtered teeth. Pointing out her crooked teeth are unfiltered - as a clue as to what she’s filtered, not a criticism of her actual features, though I can see how it could look like we’re attacking her features.
Once you’ve read more on the reddit threads too, you’ll see a lot of people saying they find her natural features more attractive than her filtered ones. Another huge point is the pain we feel for her daughters, as she filters away the same features they share genetically - as though it’s not good enough. Truly awful to do to your children.
But with any group, yes, some people will be critical of her appearance, though I’d say most the group is reasonable in how they criticize her (focusing on her actions and fraud).
Thanks for being understanding and cool. I appreciate you!!
You have to admit your wording wasn’t exactly the most open minded either though ( ie. using “jealous”)
The assumption that when women call other women out for their bullshit means there is a level of jealously is wrong on many levels. That’s exactly what the person who is being called out says. It makes me think of the mothers who tell their daughters “oh honey they are just jealous of you” instead of helping their girls to grow and become self aware of their behaviors…we just say others are jealous. And they grow up never having learned how to see themselves. I am responding, respectfully, but in some ways defending the women who have grown tired of the lying that women influencers are doing and the damage it is causing.
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Excellent points.