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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I believe this ignores the ripple effects of a crashed US dollar. Unfortunately world economies are intertwined in a way we've never seen before.

I don't think either the Euro, USD, or Pound could collapse without dragging down the others indirectly. There's a reason to 08 crash was felt worldwide.

Don't get me wrong it would be the worst for the United States and any nation that fixes their currency to the dollar. But probably quite painful to downright disastrous for many other nations.

Of course all of that happens anyway if Trump does the worst of what he says.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my view, that can only be mitigated by detangling other economies from the US. Selling off treasury bonds is one step. Increasing tech/data sovereignty is another, as well as shifting reliance to more local supply chains and manufacturing. And moving assets to the European market (in Europe's case).

Any steps to boost sovereignty and independence help to reduce reliance on the US, and mitigate the impact of a US economic crash. The lesson learned from 08 should be not to depend too heavily on US bubble economies.

Besides, the US hardly manufactures anything. They export corn, soybeans, petroleum, and cloud-based software. And US treasury bonds, whose only value is that people agree that they hold value. What happens when people suddenly realize or decide that they don't?

Grains and legumes can be ground elsewhere; arguably better. Countries already are and must continue to reduce their dependencies on fossil fuels; petroleum will not be a major commodity for much longer, no matter how the industry kicks and screams and colludes with the US government for corrupt advantage. Lastly, the shift to tech and data sovereignty must happen anyway, and is happening. The sooner other nations get their data off US-based cloud infrastructure, the better off they'll be.

There's no downside, other than reducing one's dependency too slowly and being among the last to jump ship before it sinks.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hardware they have a monopoly on hardware.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What hardware is manufactured in the US that can't be sources elsewhere?

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US doesn't manufacture much of anything. We have it manufactured in india, vietnam and china then we import and re-sell it.

If China wanted to make Macs and Iphones, they'd not need anything other than state approval and a replacement for the app stores/operating systems.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Exactly, that's why I say the US economy is built on vapor