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In your opinion who was the better president Washington or Lincoln and why? (lemmy.world)
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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I find it hard to accept the argument that Lincoln was acting imperialistically when there were millions of enslaved people, not to mention women, without any say in the decision to succeed from the Union.

[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Slavery looks no more than just an excuse. "Bad local laws" in the neighbourhood should never be a reason for annexation.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Only if "bad federal laws" (re: laws that don't allow us to benefit from the subjugation of an entire people) aren't a good reason for secession.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Bad local laws” in the neighbourhood should never be a reason for annexation.

Uh, I didn't realize you were an advocate for a wealthy minority holding secession votes at gunpoint.

[–] Lembot_0006@programming.dev -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gunpoint, huh? As you say...

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, particularly in Virginia, where armed Confederate soldiers 'monitored' the vote, in addition to out-of-state Confederate soldiers casting votes in the election.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

The north didn’t force South Carolina to fire at Fort Sumter. I find your hand waiving away the evil that was chattel slavery to be weird and gross, too.