To give this some context, to be in the richest 1% for income, you need to earn about $80k USD equivalent per year or have a net wealth of about $1.2Million USD equivalent.
Our annual emissions per person for a sustainable emsiions budget is aboit 2-3t per year. Mostly were relying on the poor to do their bit eg the average Ethipoan emits aboit 0.2t per year. The average American about 15t.
Anyone who owns a large dog, or flys, or eats lots of beef, or drives a car is emitting morw then theiir share
We could start by banning all flying.
As Professor Kevin Anderson has talked of often, if we had the richest 10% live like the average European we could cut emissions by 40%, not enough but a good start and could be easiely implemented in a month.
If you earn 80k$ USD but live in a city where your costs are 30k$USD for rent and food, and you pay taxes of 40% (leaves you with 48k$USD), that's 18k$USD. That's 1.5k$ /month that still has to pay for insurances, transport, etc. Where I live, it's at 400€/month at least just for the car because public transport sucks ass here. Insurances are about 200€/month for me but I assume that can be more if you're at 80k$USD.
All in all, about 1k$ or less per month disposable income. Is that really 1%er life?
That means that I'm in the top 10% along with nearly everybody in my country and my life isn't glorious. Far from it. If 80k$USD is 1% and just 12k difference means you have to start cutting back on stuff like sharing the apartment, getting cheaper insurances, living in a cheaper place further away from work, buying cheaper groceries, not going to the restaurant or ordering in, cancelling subscriptions and so on, then 1% really doesn't mean much.
And all that is a single person! Imagine having a family. 80k would be nowhere near enough to start a family, raise children with activities, pay for tuition or anything else. That's 1%? No way.
If I earned 80k in the middle of bumfuck nowhere where I live, sure, that would be amazing. That's not going to happen though.
IMO statements like that are from napkin calculations that use averages or medians that do not correct for anything and ignore exponentials. I'd really like to see classification of 1% by net income. I bet it would be very different than just gross income across all countries.
Thanks for the info. Living in the US without a car I'm left wondering how much time it takes for me to use my share. I'd wager I haven't passed it yet but I'm not naive enough to think it's much more than a month.
To give this some context, to be in the richest 1% for income, you need to earn about $80k USD equivalent per year or have a net wealth of about $1.2Million USD equivalent.
https://daadscholarship.com/how-much-money-need-to-earn-to-join-top-1-of-the-world-in-2025/
Our annual emissions per person for a sustainable emsiions budget is aboit 2-3t per year. Mostly were relying on the poor to do their bit eg the average Ethipoan emits aboit 0.2t per year. The average American about 15t.
Anyone who owns a large dog, or flys, or eats lots of beef, or drives a car is emitting morw then theiir share
We could start by banning all flying.
As Professor Kevin Anderson has talked of often, if we had the richest 10% live like the average European we could cut emissions by 40%, not enough but a good start and could be easiely implemented in a month.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/un-expert-human-rights-climate-crisis-economy
I really think that's misinformation.
If you earn 80k$ USD but live in a city where your costs are 30k$USD for rent and food, and you pay taxes of 40% (leaves you with 48k$USD), that's 18k$USD. That's 1.5k$ /month that still has to pay for insurances, transport, etc. Where I live, it's at 400€/month at least just for the car because public transport sucks ass here. Insurances are about 200€/month for me but I assume that can be more if you're at 80k$USD.
All in all, about 1k$ or less per month disposable income. Is that really 1%er life?
That means that I'm in the top 10% along with nearly everybody in my country and my life isn't glorious. Far from it. If 80k$USD is 1% and just 12k difference means you have to start cutting back on stuff like sharing the apartment, getting cheaper insurances, living in a cheaper place further away from work, buying cheaper groceries, not going to the restaurant or ordering in, cancelling subscriptions and so on, then 1% really doesn't mean much.
And all that is a single person! Imagine having a family. 80k would be nowhere near enough to start a family, raise children with activities, pay for tuition or anything else. That's 1%? No way.
If I earned 80k in the middle of bumfuck nowhere where I live, sure, that would be amazing. That's not going to happen though.
IMO statements like that are from napkin calculations that use averages or medians that do not correct for anything and ignore exponentials. I'd really like to see classification of 1% by net income. I bet it would be very different than just gross income across all countries.
Thanks for the info. Living in the US without a car I'm left wondering how much time it takes for me to use my share. I'd wager I haven't passed it yet but I'm not naive enough to think it's much more than a month.