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Brave is essentially just Chrome with an adblocker, a bunch of bloatware, and a bunch of controversies.

Brave took BAT donations in YouTuber's names without their consent, with them keeping the money if the YouTubers didn't claim it. https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-browser-no-longer-claims-to-fundraise-on-behalf-of-others-so-thats-nice/

Brave's search engine crawler hides itself from websites by pretending to be Googlebot, and Meta (Facebook) buys API access from them to train their AI. https://stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for-ai-training/

The business model of Brave rewards as a whole is to block all other ad networks to replace them with their own, which is unfair as only YouTubers and websites that have joined can make money from most Brave users.

If Brave actually cared, they would create an acceptable ads style feature which was free for everyone and allowed simple contextual banners while blocking ads which track you, take up most of the page, or have NSFW content.

Their approach is monopolistic as they have full control and can strangle YouTubers and websites by dropping pay at any time.

And Brenden Eich has said on Twitter that he plans to release "Brave Origin", which is a paid version of Brave without the bloatware. That name is ironic as he is admitting that his browser is commercialised and bloated, which is similar to when gorhill gave uBlock way to Chris Aljoudi who commercialised it, which led him to create uBlock Origin.

If you use Brave, ditch it and look at using Librewolf or Helium instead, which both include no ads nor tracking and don't have Brave News, Rewards, Wallet, Talk etc bloatware.

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[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 38 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I am pretty set with Firefox in Android and desktop to be honest.

I cringe a little when users praise Brave as being the best ad-less YouTube solution (especially android users since we have revanced here!), no bro, there is no way using the web version of YT is better than revanced, or any other apps on mobile.

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

Their shields AdBlock is very good though, it's done in ram in a memory safe way, arguably doing it through an extension like ublock is not great. I can't wait until a project facelifts shields and puts it on top of an unbloated security focused chromium (or Firefox grows some balls and builds it in). Vanadium pls πŸ₯Ί

[–] relativestranger@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

I am pretty set with Firefox in Android and desktop to be honest.

been using firefox since before it was called firefox, and netscape before that. while i do use 'other' browsers, too, their use is limited to testing and a few select sites or purposes only (for instance, i use a 'portable' opera for mail, and only mail).

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Firefox is becoming a shitty ai browser now. Consider waterfox or librewolf

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

For my needs I'm currently fine with it, also my mindset is... All those are FF forks, the enshitification of FF will eventually splash them, not to the same degree, but yeah, it can happen.

I am too lazy to switch my CSS theme in ALL the OS I use too, for some reason this crap isn't synced automatically with FF Sync (just as some add-ons settings) I hate starting over, that is why I always bash on current backup/restore solution Android has (compared to iCloud) every time I get the chance lol.

[–] Void98@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Or even Firedragon which is a fork of both librewolf and floorp, best browser i have ever used! I recommend trying it out.

[–] southernbrewer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

On iOS it might be though, because there's no revanced and browsers can't have plugins so the only way to adblock is to use a browser that bakes it in.

This means (afaik) Brave, DuckDuckGo or Opera. IME adblocking for youtube specifically is patchy with Opera, can't speak for DuckDuckGo.

Or just don't use iOS. I don't much but we have an iPad for occasional use

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Orion on iOS has support for both Chrome and Firefox extensions. So you can use uBlock Origins directly. It’s made by the same developers as the search engine Kagi.

Only downside is that it doesn’t sync with Firefox, if you use that on your desktop.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

I didn't know that about Orion...

Only downside is that it doesn’t sync with Firefox, if you use that on your desktop.

Man that's rough.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

When I used iOS setting FF to strict navigation or whatever its name is it did wonders, compared to the closed environment I was ofc.

[–] Void98@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And now Morphe too, continuation of the revanced project, and it's acually really good i have to say

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

... This is how I found out about the Revanced situation... Oh boy I swear the open source community is one of the biggest ones that carries some drama πŸ˜‚ (not saying this is bad, the switch is something totally justified).

[–] Void98@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just saw a random post about it here and i switched since revanced isn't really getting updated, although i still use the revanced reddit bc it blocks ads, bit buggy but it works and i also have their pirated lightroom xd.

[–] kratoz29@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I see, I still main Sync for Reddit thanks to revanced do you know if Morphe has parches for it? As far as I can tell it only has parches for YT stuff...

[–] Void98@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Only yt so far sadly......