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Fairphone vs Nothing (or any other phone) (feddit.dk)
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I am looking for my next smart phone.

It seems like I will choose between a Fairphone 6 or Nothing 3 (or any other phone) How do these phones compare?

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[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Ultimately, any phone that depends on Google code is not free or European.

[โ€“] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fairphone works better than most with alternatives. PostmarketOS runs pretty well on Fairphone 5, for those who really want to be completely free of Google. Personally I'm happy with /e/OS for now.

[โ€“] KaninchenSpeed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Writing this from PostmarketOS on the fp5, it does run, but getting mobile data to work is an adventure (at least with my isp). I haven't tried the WIP kernel to get the speaker working, the mic doesn't work at all currently, so only calling with a bluetooth headset. Battery life is a bit less than android. I'll probably dual boot with Ubuntu Touch or Lineage for the next while.

If your ok with the thickness of the fp5, then get it over the fp6. Linux and custom rom support is much better, also usb 3.

[โ€“] Jobe@feddit.org 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can install iodeOS on the FP 6 though

[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub -2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Iode is android. Meaning it will still use and depend on Google code and updates. This is like using Chromium instead of chrome as a web browser.

[โ€“] user_123@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If its only uses the Foss part of android you really don't need google for updates. But it helps.

[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How does it receive security updates?

[โ€“] user_123@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You write them yourself

[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You don't think the devs that work on lineageOS (which is what iodesOS and /e/ is forked from) fork any code directly from google?

[โ€“] user_123@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes of course. And now google have made it a bit harder to. Because they only release the source code when they release the new version.

But you are less dependent on google/manufacturer with an open source version of android, Then a closed version. And as far as I know fairphone also release drivers open source when possible ( sometimes its not allowed from the chip manufacturer side )

So atleast in theory you don't need google for updates to your phone. But in reality much code will come from google.

So its stills matter that you can install an open source variant on your device.

[โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

My argument was and still is this:

Ultimately, any phone that depends on Google code is not free or European.

I agree that using a "degoogled" ROM is better than using a version of android directly from Google. However, a new solution is required.

Anyone that actually wants to to be degoogled or boycott the US (which should be everyone that opposes fascism, including US citizens like me), should be considering phones that use an OS which isn't derived from a company based in the US which profits off of war and the breaking of international law.

[โ€“] user_123@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yes I agree. I have a different reason for it but it would be good with more phone os;s.

But some other in this thread recommended Jolla. And I guess that's an alternative. I think a android emulator is included but otherwise i think its based on Nokias old megoo OS. The new phone was announced after i bought my fairphone otherwise i probably had bought that.

[โ€“] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago

More like using Brave (besides the questionable leadership, of course)