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[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The reason why "we matter" is stronger than "we matter too" is because it doesn't reference the other and thus is a purely one-sided thing, which can totally be read as "we matter more".

I'm not sure though if that's a good thing, depending on what's the goal.

Any minority movement always has to keep in mind that it's the majority that decides. Suffragettes did not take voting rights by force. They got voting rights because they managed to find enough allies in the male population that they were given voting rights.

Black slaves didn't end slavery themselves. They managed to find enough allies that would be willing to fight and die in a civil war to give them their freedom.

And a group consisting of roughly 12% of a country's population will not take the country by force and change laws by themselves.

"Black lives matter" is an incredibly polarizing statement that causes opposition (as evidenced e.g. by "Blue lives matter", which totally has the implied "more" attached). It's comparatively easy to say "No, the life of a black suspect does not matter more than the life of a police officer", if you already lean in that direction. It's a good slogan if you want to polarize and divide.

"Black lives matter too" is a statement that's really hard to disagree with, because of course black lives matter too, unless you are a hard-core white supremacist.

So if the goal is to get the majority on your side and actually cause change, I think "Black lives matter too" would have been the better slogan.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

(as evidenced e.g. by “Blue lives matter”, which totally has the implied “more” attached)

Truth. Also, here is no such thing as "blue lives" because a cop can quit their job, a black person cannot quit being black.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agree.

But "Black Lives Matter Too" abbreviates to BLMT which kinda sound like a sandwich 😅

BLAM conveys the same meaning but the acronym does double duty.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Black lives also matter" works just as well, that's right, no contest there.

And you are right, BLAM sounds way better than both BLM and BLMT.