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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 71 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

You can do everything right and still have the curse of investor overconfidence placed on you.

Huang has been complaining for some time that doing well doesn’t result in stock gains, but the actual problem is the stock price is way too high so doing well does nothing for investor expectations.

This is when you sell shares because they no longer have any upside potential.

It sucks for companies though, but the fact is nvidia is overvalued at a 4.5T market cap.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In some ways the victim of their own success, that's just the way this system is built, for better or worse (mostly worse). The incentives drive the behaviour, but the architecture is hostile in nature, so it's hard to have different outcomes at a certain level. Infinite growth is literal cancer.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

“We didn’t want to inflate our valuation with circular investings, the market made us do it! We are the victims here!!”

*Deploys golden parachute*

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

he will soon have to deploy one made of AI chips

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 20 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

he's got nothing to worry about. when they crash down to $1, trump will call it a "matter of national security" or some shit, and then bail them out, courtesy of your tax dollars and my tax dollars. because they actually want the AIs for their police state surveillance

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 16 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The company doesn't care if the stock price hits $1. If the company is paying it's bills, it just continues. It's the people who hold shares that care. The company doesn't hold shares in itself.

Enron collapsed because the company financials collapsed, not because the stock price collapsed. That happened after all the bad accounting practises and hidden debt came to light. Now, in that case the shareholders succeeded in suing for their losses, but they only had a case because of the mismanagement.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The company absolutely does own shares of itself and it's ability to secure credit and just engage in business in general depends of the value of that holding.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 11 hours ago

No. The board can decide to issue more shares, but this is a sub-dividing of the already issued shares and so normally requires a vote from the shareholders. Major shareholders normally sit on the board, so the two groups overlap but are legally distinct.

If a company buys it own shares, it's normally a "buyback" and the shares cease to exist.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It does impact employee morale when they get paid with stock incentives and they go to zero.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 11 hours ago

Of course. They are shareholders.

The company is a separate legal entity though.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

You can't really bail out a stock price though...

I guess you could provide a guaranteed backstop to sellers and funnel the stock to the government, as Trump seems to love doing, but then you end up with a $3T of over-valued assets that you can't do anything with.