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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

OK but let's think why a person might feel like they have to lie about severity to secure compliance with a food request. I reckon the woman with a name that has transformed during her life into a gendered insult and an actual allergic person share a common struggle, a well-founded fear of betrayal by the person preparing their food.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I have preferences for things I don't like on my food and ask for removals or substitutions regularly. Sometimes those requests are forgotten or ignored and I will get it remade, or maybe I just suck it up and deal with it if it's takeout and I'm a half hour from where I got the food. Not once in my entire life have I considered telling people I have an allergy.

So yes, I have thought about why a person might feel like they have to lie about severity, and my conclusion is "that person is a self-centered asshole."

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but that's just a preference. What about stuff like lactose intolerance, where it's not an allergy, but it still makes somebody feel sick?

If you knew a food made you sick, I could understand saying it was a milk allergy to make sure people actually knew it made you sick, even though that's not the truth.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, that's not a problem. Calling a legitimate sensitivity an "allergy" for the sake of expediency isn't a problem. It's still a legitimate dietary concern that needs similar handling.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, but you understand that she's still what most people would consider a "lying karen", right?

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No? I very much don't believe it is.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

Speaking as somebody with a brassica intolerance, it absolutely is a very common sentiment.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

This kind of distills down to the "I suffer needlessly, so others should too" fallacy. Perhaps your food preferences aren't as health-critical as other people's, but I still think you'd be justified in demanding what you actually paid for more often. And you not doing so doesn't mean that other people are assholes. Really, I think the food preparer who is inclined to take everyone's food requirements less seriously merely because they get more food requirement requests is truly a real asshole, way before the person who realizes that framing their preference as a requirement more often gets them the respect that everybody's preferences deserve.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I literally said that I do get it corrected unless doing so is a huge inconvenience for me.

I don't lie about why I need special treatment.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I suspect that it only takes one or two situations where a near certain mistake which would be a huge inconvenience to correct is averted by lying before the average person begins feeling safer lying from the outset as a general rule.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

I guess I'm more averse to lying then this supposed "average person" then.

I'm okay with that.