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Is horror punk a part of goth, or does it just share a visual aesthetic (piefed.world)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/36598580

I know what the really early goth bands were (the smiths, banshees, etc) and how it started primarily as post punk, but outside of that im pretty confused on what bands/genres are a part of goth. It doesn’t help that there are a lot of bands (usually alternative metal) that are liked by/associated with goth but have nothing to do with the actual subculture. (Learning about goth so far has felt like the inverse of learning about emo, where I started out knowing mostly newer bands and understood the genre more as I learned more about the early foundational bands, whereas with goth I only really know the early bands and am completely lost from there)

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[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Interesting perspective…I’m old, can barely navigate YouTube, and I don’t know what any of those things you mentioned are for (although you helped me I stand them a titch more).

For more background…I was a club kid…and goth clubs were my favourite because I was a misfit and felt at home. Speaking of The Misfits…I totally ignored/forgot about the horror goths, which were a huge contingent in early goth: you’d get all these drama kids in cliques waiting for Time Warp to get played. The Misfits, as a band, were like The Cure or The Smiths…the fans and shirts were present…maybe more than the first two….but it was only aesthetic, the music wasn’t really getting played much….it was really cool and weird that they eventually released Helena, but I digress. Speaking of euro industrial, is anyone playing EN, these days?

Yeah…goth seems to have kind of morphed with “emo”: it’s…a vibe and it signals that somebody follows a strict fashion code.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

is anyone playing EN, these days?

You mean Einstürzende Neubauten? I don't hear it on the 3-4 twitch DJs I frequent. I checked some of their later output and it was a lot less industrial. Their earlier stuff where they're out in a construction site under a bridge just breaking stuff is pretty cool tho.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah…EN is better defined as it’s own thing. Calling early EN “industrial” was almost too on the nose. It’s better to call them experimental music…but a DJ here and the would play them way back when…sometimes to clear the club, lol.