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[–] PowerLurker@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

does historical materialism actually assert anything about the ultimate metaphysical nature of reality though? i’d argue no. it just asserts itself as the most useful/coherent model for analyzing history under a certain set of common sense presuppositions.

like i think there’s an ambient belief in metaphysical materialism in Marx and Lenin’s work, sure, but i don’t think it really depends on any metaphysical belief to operate. you can be a religious dualist or a metaphysical idealist or whatever, and not think history is most predominately driven by great men and internally manifested first principles. (there’s probably a more vigorous philosophical way of expressing this argument i’m too lazy to express rn in a shitpost)

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Much of Marx, Engels, Stalin, Mao, and other diamat theorists' writing is specifically written to attack the idealist/metaphysical world outlook. I think that it's clear that they are making claims about the nature of reality, because the point of the philosophy falls a bit flat otherwise. But they're also committed to ruthless criticism of their own ideas and (at least in the best case) improve the theory when new contradictions appear; I don't think that it's likely that revolutionary movements in the near future will change their philosophical positions to accommodate religious people, but I guess you're also right that the usefulness of the model is really the only thing that has to be constant about it.

[–] PowerLurker@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

i see your point, i do think the Abrahamic idea of an omnibenevolent god runs into some contradictions and tensions with historical materialism. broader metaphysical questions about the ultimate nature of things i do still see as beyond its purview (even if the theorists themselves didn't) but that's a larger conversation.