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MSI GEFORCE RTX 5050 8GB Nvidia card- sold but not useable? (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by jeffjot@lemmy.world to c/linux_gaming@lemmy.world

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I spent about 2 days and all night with Google AI trying to get this highly recommended NVIDIA RTX 5050 card installed so I could use it with Blender and it finally gave up on me.
I have a Gateway PC. I know Blender isn't gaming but these Nvidia cards are definitely used in gaming. I wondered if anyone else has installed one. I've got Kali Linux.

It said that the card is "So new that the manufacturer hasn't come up with a working driver yet" and to check back in a few weeks maybe. Surely it can't be serious? How can NVIDIA sell graphics cards without a working driver. I spent over $200 on this card :(. Thank god I managed to get my system working again, it almost broke my Blender installation but found a workaround to get it back, but its as slow as ever. I'm stuck with this card and it refuses to run.

The Catch-22 is that it apparently will only run on the latest graphics driver that "just came out this week" but you can't install it with the graphics card inserted, and you can't install it with it not inserted.

It freezes forever at loading Ramdisk. All the earlier drivers won't run it either. Of course I have a older system, not incredibly old but dated. I wanted to upgrade my graphics card instead of buying a whole new PC. Thats where spending $200 sounded smart to avoid spending a lot more on a new PC right. Its hugely disappointing. Thanks for any help or experiences.

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[–] jeffjot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OH I get it as far as AI. Its can be very helpful, but its a double edged sword for sure lol. And it can be wrong. So basically here is the problem I'm having as far as I can see. I have the Kali Linux OS and the only driver that will work for this card is apparently the most recent one, I believe the 590. NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-590.48.01.run For some reason, this latest driver is impossible to download and install with the OS from a Linux command line the usual way at least with the Kali system.

My PC is a Gateway DX4870. Its not ancient but its not new. But then like I said, I would be a prime candidate for a video card upgrade right. If I had a new PC I probably wouldn't need one.

In theory what I think you should be able to do is power down, put the new GEFORCE video card in, boot, and then it should boot into the desktop on your existing old video card since the new one doesn't have a driver right. Then you would go into a hardware manager, install the driver for the new video card, remove the driver for the old video card, reboot again, and you're on the NVIDIA. But this new card will not do that. If you boot with the card in, it takes over the system and the old video card does not function. So you just get a black screen, no cursor, nothing. Thats apparently because the card has seized the system, but has no driver to actually function.

But if you try to install the Nvidia driver first without the card, it won't install it because the card is not there. So its a Catch-22.
Anyway I worked with this for days, finally ended up booting into a live instance of Linux off a USB, and downloading the NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-590.48.01.run driver and trying to install it that way.
I got almost to the finish line. At that point after installing it that way, if you plug the monitor into the HDMI port on the new GEFORCE card, you will get a Kali Linux boot screen, so that shows fine. But when you try to boot the OS, you only get as far as "Loading Ramdisk......" and hangs there permanently. You never get into the desktop.

Unfortunately I found that in order to get Blender working again without the card, all of the Nvidia had to be removed, so I had to uninstall everything I had installed and I'm back to square one again. Its sure been difficult :/

[–] ark3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I am pretty sure no distro uses/works with the the .run files, you should be installing the drivers through the respective package manager.

Also why Kali? it's a very specialized distribution for cyber security. It's not for usual desktop uses

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

.run files are definitely doable in Linux, don't know why you'd think otherwise. It's my preferred way to install the proprietary drivers on Debian

[–] ark3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Why though when you can just apt install ... and have it auto update etc.
Do the nvidias .run files basically do that too? Thought the official .runs are just binaries/libs getting dumped into correct places same as old make install

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Debian repos don't have the latest drivers