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Discussion about Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 being an indie game are ongoing leading into The Game Awards. And nobody can agree where to land on it.

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[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cold take: The indie, AA, AAA, and the one "AAAA" labels are all pretty poor.

[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 9 points 5 months ago

I agree with this, except I thought “indie” was the one that made the most sense until now.

Hollywood redefined “independent” to mean “anything outside of the major studio system,” which has made less and less sense as time goes on.

Seems like it was about time for the video game industry to redefine words too!

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I've never even seen anyone use "AA", anyway.

But yeah, it seem obvious that we need different definitions for games that were made with few resources. I do think that it's worth treating something that was actually made independently, like Baldur's Gate 3, different from a game by EA or Ubisoft, but it's pretty absurd to have these huge games compete against games that were made by a team of 5 on a shoestring budget.

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 7 points 5 months ago

A lot of "AA games" get lumped into as indie because they're small studios. Satisfactory and Valheim are both published by Coffee Stain which generates more than half a billion in revenue every year, but usually when people think of big publishers they think of the mega large ones like Sony, EA, Ubisoft, etc.

The publisher relationship is different now than it was 20 years ago, but its still a different scenario to be publisher backed than solely self-funded indie.

I'd argue AA is still a valid label for small studio but still publisher backed games, even if that category is a little murky.