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I strongly disagree with this framing. Whether you support or don't support my beliefs is irrelevant because we are not discussing my beliefs.
You know a lot about how allegedly bad MOG and their admin is, but the only negative thing about the tankie triad for you is some discussion about Art Spiegelman. With all due respect, this does not sound in the least convincing.
Everything else I mentioned (their support for authoritarianism, their support for the russian invasion of Ukraine) is just my belief. It's my opinion, right?
Let me get this straight, you know a lot about MOG, yet the images in the stickies on MOG that highlight Desalines', lead dev of Lemmy and admin of ML and lemmygrad, support for Chinese authoritarianism are completely alien to you.
The screenshots showing Desalines claiming that critique of Chine is equivalent to racism; this is the first time you've heard of this, right?
Desalines claiming that “Slava Ukraini” is fascist slogan (literally saying all Ukrainian are fascists) is giant surprise for you, yes?
Or are those screenshots fake?
My points have been:
A lemmy instance can't be authoritarian since participation is voluntary, it's transparent, viewable to other instances and open source.
I haven't personally had issues with grad, ml or hexbear. I'm not defending those instances, their mods, suggesting the admins act in good faith, or claiming they haven't said shitty things.
Goat incites drama. Not liking them or MOG is not the same as supporting the statements that appear on MOG, which, again, I don't subscribe to. It's almost like I'm here for fun.
This whole thing is like saying "all BMW owners are terrible drivers" — you start watching BMWs more closely. When someone's being an idiot on the road in a BMW, you're like "Hah! Of course it's a BMW." It's a confirmation bias, you notice when a so-called communist is being an idiot. You might even start assuming that everyone who's an idiot is also a communist, further reinforcing the bias. Or assume something ridiculous like how my few points amount to defense of individuals I haven't even mentioned.
Alright my friend, I'm done with this conversation. I don't mind if you respond to get the last word.
I don't mind you ending your post using the phrase "I don’t mind if you respond to get the last word." This is common in english-language rhetoric.
So you do tolerate tankie ideology; specifically pro-imperialism and pro-genocide attitudes of the mods, admins and user base. It's simply not an issue for you!
You should have started with this and not beat around the bush.
Thanks for confirming!
In an effort not to be disengenuous, this is the first time I've continued after I said I would disengage, because:
So, I will disengage after this and I recognize you may respond, and that's okay. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, at this point the debate is informative for anyone who may read it.
You're right, I straight up do not care that people think these instances, specifically are bad. My main griefs on this platform are the brigading against women, even in the communities specific for women's perspectives, and the lack of media pluralism, both of which are prevalent accross communities and instances. Women everywhere face discrimination, poorer healthcare, and violence, so my battles are in real life and closer to home. I seek to inform and correct misinformation while bolstering media pluralism on this platform, which is why I like having access to as many instances as possible.
I save my spoons for bolder activism, like writing my political reps, showing up at city hall, contributing to a sex positive women's zine, grant writing for outsider artists, running art workshops for adults with developmental challenges, and fundraising for Fairy Creek protesters, because a number of my friends were abused by The RCMP while being arrested for standing against the illegal logging of treaty protected land. That's another issue close to me, as Metis with a Mi'kmaq grandmother who had to give up her status to marry a white man.
I don't say this to shame you, or as a "gotcha," but to say there's more than one thing going on in the world. Everyone picks their battles, and everyone has battles.